Angel eyes

[GregW / Oregon]

What provides the illumination for the headlight rings? I assume there are separate bulbs. I'd like to match the color to the HID headlignts (~4,300K). Not interested in going super high color temp.

[southlight]

Don't know if that helps, but it's the #8 here: http://bmwfans.info/original/E92/Cou/M3-S65/ECE/L/N/2007/06/mg-63/ill-63_0961/

H8 12V 35W


Best regards, south

[GregW / Oregon]

Don't know if that helps, but it's the #8 here: http://bmwfans.info/original/E92/Cou/M3-S65/ECE/L/N/2007/06/mg-63/ill-63_0961/

H8 12V 35W

Best regards, south
Thanks, south--that does help. I assume #7 is the "flash to pass" halogen?

[southlight]

Thanks, south--that does help. I assume #7 is the "flash to pass" halogen?
#7 is the bending light (right term?), "flash to pass" does the xenon/HID.


Best regards, south

[GregW / Oregon]

Just ordered H8 & H3 lamps from Bimmian.com to match xenon. $96 with shipping for the two sets. They also have a LED conversion for the halo lamps, but it is a high color temp super bright look; that might be too much bling for me.

I don't know why BMW doesn't color match their lamps. It's a small detail, but makes a big difference in appearance.

[cowmoo32]

Good luck with Bimmian. I haven't read much about them recently, but I know they used to be pretty bad with messing up orders and customer service.

[K3N R3D]

Just ordered H8 & H3 lamps from Bimmian.com to match xenon. $96 with shipping for the two sets. They also have a LED conversion for the halo lamps, but it is a high color temp super bright look; that might be too much bling for me.

I don't know why BMW doesn't color match their lamps. It's a small detail, but makes a big difference in appearance.

+1 I agree it should match the xenons. But its not for everyone so we will just have to buy the aftermarket ones. Thanks for the info I will check them out for myself. :thumbsup:

[MTrizzy]

Just ordered H8 & H3 lamps from Bimmian.com to match xenon. $96 with shipping for the two sets. They also have a LED conversion for the halo lamps, but it is a high color temp super bright look; that might be too much bling for me.

I don't know why BMW doesn't color match their lamps. It's a small detail, but makes a big difference in appearance.

I'm really interested in doing the same mod when my coupe comes in...please post pics and any installation notes...Thanks

[FifthStreetz]

GP Thunder 8500K

Dont be fooled by the high temp the claim. It matches well with stock HIDs. Its white with a hint of blue. The 8500 is just a marketing gimmick.

[GregW / Oregon]

I'm really interested in doing the same mod when my coupe comes in...please post pics and any installation notes...Thanks
Will do next week.

[GregW / Oregon]

Just ordered H8 & H3 lamps from Bimmian.com to match xenon. $96 with shipping for the two sets. They also have a LED conversion for the halo lamps, but it is a high color temp super bright look; that might be too much bling for me.

Here are the bulbs I just received from Bimmian. Looks like their customer service has improved over their reputation. Halo (H8) bulbs on left and cornering (H3) bulbs on right.

[FifthStreetz]

Nicee, looks just like my GP Thunders. Im wondering, do you take the bulb off that socket and place it on the OEM one or do you replace the whole socket itself?

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9416/p1010439lk0.jpg

[GregW / Oregon]

Nicee, looks just like my GP Thunders. Im wondering, do you take the bulb off that socket and place it on the OEM one or do you replace the whole socket itself?


You replace the whole thing. And be careful not to touch the glass of the bulb with your fingers. Wear gloves.

[FifthStreetz]

You replace the whole thing. And be careful not to touch the glass of the bulb with your fingers. Wear gloves.

:thumbsup:

[ChinoOrtega]

FifthStreetz I was wondering where you got yours??? Bimmian would not sell me anything since I have a P.O Box and international credit card,
thanks man

[ChinoOrtega]

What GP Thunder did you buy??

[GregW / Oregon]

FifthStreetz I was wondering where you got yours??? Bimmian would not sell me anything since I have a P.O Box and international credit card, thanks man
Do you have access to PayPal in Guatemala? That's an option.

[ChinoOrtega]

Yes, I think a friend already has a paypal account, thanks, hey gregw what are the h3 for and where do they go?

[GregW / Oregon]

Yes, I think a friend already has a paypal account, thanks, hey gregw what are the h3 for and where do they go?
Look at the diagram in the link southlight provided: http://bmwfans.info/original/E92/Cou/M3-S65/ECE/L/N/2007/06/mg-63/ill-63_0961/. they are part #7, which are for the "cornering lights"

[///Mantis]

i recommend buying for hid-lights.com
they ship quick and good stuff. my $0.03

[FifthStreetz]

i recommend buying for hid-lights.com
they ship quick and good stuff. my $0.03

I heard horror stories about them. Alot of people that bought the H8 for AE took forever to ship, some never got it...

http://hidlightsusa.com/ is where i got mine, got them in 4 days.

[FifthStreetz]

What GP Thunder did you buy??

GP THunder 8500K from

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GP-Thunder-8500K-H8-Xenon-Plasma-Quartz-Ion-Bulb-35W_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ36476QQihZ005QQitem Z150223881015QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

great seller, he doesn't charge extra for out of country, i recommended him to someone in Canada and shipping was the same price as stated. Both got our bulbs in about 4-days

[FifthStreetz]

Greg, does the H3s change the color of the corner lights? I think stock is orange.

[GregW / Oregon]

Greg, does the H3s change the color of the corner lights? I think stock is orange.
These are cornering lights or "corner-illuminating lights". These are in addition to the adaptive headlights.

From the manual, "In tight curves at speeds up to approx. 40 mph/70 km/h, e.g. on mountainaous roads or when turning, an additional corner-illuminating lamp is switched on that lights up the inside area of the curve." On many new cars the fog lights do this, but since the M3 doesn't have fog lights...

[FifthStreetz]

These are cornering lights or "corner-illuminating lights". These are in addition to the adaptive headlights.

From the manual, "In tight curves at speeds up to approx. 40 mph/70 km/h, e.g. on mountainaous roads or when turning, an additional corner-illuminating lamp is switched on that lights up the inside area of the curve."

oooo i see, thanks~

[ChinoOrtega]

When the first one installs the H8 and the H3 would you PLEASE post pics and detailed instructions, because I am the worst at doing manual stuff and it woyuld really help, thanks

[WKBRDR]

How many sets would I need of the GP8500s?

1 set of H8?
1 set of H3?

thanks

Don't have my M3 yet... end of April... just preparing!

[WCH]

Here are the bulbs I just received from Bimmian. Looks like their customer service has improved over their reputation. Halo (H8) bulbs on left and cornering (H3) bulbs on right.

GregW - Can you post pics when your car comes in and you have installed these? Xcellere posted pictures of his GP8500 and it would be interesting to compare. Thanks

[GregW / Oregon]

GregW - Can you post pics when your car comes in and you have installed these? Xcellere posted pictures of his GP8500 and it would be interesting to compare. Thanks
Doubt if you'll be able to get a true comparison in pics, but yes.

[GregW / Oregon]

How many sets would I need of the GP8500s?

1 set of H8?
1 set of H3?

thanks

Don't have my M3 yet... end of April... just preparing!
Did you look at the diagram in the link?

[WCH]

Doubt if you'll be able to get a true comparison in pics, but yes.

That's true but still worth seeing the pics. Thanks

[DJ9]

Sorry for the ignorance, but isn't the H3 (#7) the High beam lights as well. The inner fixture towards the kidney grills of the two light fixtures?

So H8= Both Angel eyes, and H3= High Beam/Cornering light?

[ChinoOrtega]

No, the high beam is also the low beam, the cornering lights are also the daytime running lights, so get one pair GP 8500 H8 for the angels and H3 for the cornering lights, I read in another post that the best match is GP's for angel eyes and Mtec Super White for cornering lights. Get the same Watts or you'll get error code.

[FifthStreetz]

Get the same Watts or you'll get error code.

35W for the GP Thunders.

[DJ9]

No, the high beam is also the low beam, the cornering lights are also the daytime running lights, so get one pair GP 8500 H8 for the angels and H3 for the cornering lights, I read in another post that the best match is GP's for angel eyes and Mtec Super White for cornering lights. Get the same Watts or you'll get error code.

I'm confused. I see two light fixtures....can you please explain which light fixture supports what you posted above.

Sounds like you're saying the small fixture is the daytime/cornering, so where is the high beem light then, in the large xenon?

[ChinoOrtega]

The xenon light is both high and low beams

[DJ9]

Got it, that's what was tripping me up. Was thinking in terms of e46 functionality.

So no one is going with PIAA brand bulbs these days?

[ChinoOrtega]

Piaa just came out with H3 but they don't have H8, so I went like fifthstreetz GP thunders 8500k H8 for angel and Mtec super white H3, pretty inexpensive bulbs compared to PIAA, when they come out with H8 I'll get them both.

[DJ9]

Piaa just came out with H3 but they don't have H8, so I went like fifthstreetz GP thunders 8500k H8 for angel and Mtec super white H3, pretty inexpensive bulbs compared to PIAA, when they come out with H8 I'll get them both.

Ya, PIAA's are much more costly, but they really produce a good product.

Think I will swap the stock yellow H3 bulbs for PIAA H3 Xtreme White and then see how the GP8500k halo lights look during the day & night.

I dont like the orange/yellow cornering lights, but at times the yellow halo's seem contrast nicely with the xenon color headlights....kind of like a ring of fire and are visible during the day.

Anyhow, can't wait to see some quality pics of the H3 & H8's installed.

[rvacha]

What if I were to want Angel Eyes that were really blue instead of matching the HID color? Anything out there?

[ChinoOrtega]

you can go with Mtec Pure Blue
http://www.automotivelightingusa.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=10_23&products_id=1458
Mtec has a wide variety of colors

[GregW / Oregon]

What if I were to want Angel Eyes that were really blue instead of matching the HID color? Anything out there?
Bimmian has an LED conversion kit that you can get in true blue or red.

[rvacha]

Thanks gents-
I ordered Luminics H8 Blue. I'm thinking that real LED blue might be a little on the overwhelming side, but then again maybe the H8s will be too.

[GregW / Oregon]

Okay, attempted the bulb installation today using the bulbs from Bimmian. H3s worked fine, H8 not so. Problem with the latter seems to be that the space between the retention prongs and the base gasket is slightly larger than the stock bulbs, so they do not fit securely in the housing when bayoneted in. I removed the one I tried and reinstalled the stock, and will contact Bimmian.

Following are a couple pics of how to install them. The manual pp 210-211 has a fairly good explanation of the procedure.

1) Remove top cover from light cluster housing using a screwdriver to pry the two prongs.
2) H3s for cornering lamps are readily visible from the top and held in by a simple spring clip. Pretty easy to switch out.
3) H8s install from the rear and access is very restricted, especially for large hands. You need to rotate the lamp about 90 degrees to the right and remove it from the back, then take it out of its socket. Be sure to note the orientation of the plug when you remove it so you can get it back in the same way.

I would not buy the Bimmian H8s unless they have a resolution for the fit issue. Just found they have a very nice return feature on their site.

[rvacha]

GregW-
Can you bend the tabs and make it fit more snugly? Is the actual manufacter's name stamped on the H8s? Is the OEM rubber washer perhaps a little thicker?

[GregW / Oregon]

GregW-
Can you bend the tabs and make it fit more snugly? Is the actual manufacter's name stamped on the H8s? Is the OEM rubber washer perhaps a little thicker?
The tabs are short a double layer metal, so don't look too bendable. They say "Michiba". Washers look identical.

[SMSgt B]

Greg and all,

Thanks for the write up on this. I just ordered my 1st mod:

GP 8500K H8 35W
GP 8500K H3 55W

Total cost: $42.45 including shipping at hidlightsusa.com

[Big Windy]

Greg and all,

Thanks for the write up on this. I just ordered my 1st mod:

GP 8500K H8 35W
GP 8500K H3 55W

Total cost: $42.45 including shipping at hidlightsusa.com

that's pretty cheap...hope you can get your H8 to fit though...:dance:

[SMSgt B]

that's pretty cheap...hope you can get your H8 to fit though...:dance:

I do believe Xcellere just added these and from what I read, he had no problems with the install

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123851&page=9

[GregW / Oregon]

Greg and all,

Thanks for the write up on this. I just ordered my 1st mod:

GP 8500K H8 35W
GP 8500K H3 55W

Total cost: $42.45 including shipping at hidlightsusa.com
Be aware that the downside of any of these bulbs is reduced light output. They achieve a "cooler" color temperature with a blue-coated lamp. The blue obviously absorbs a portion of the light.

The PIAA H3s are better than others, I believe, but they are $72 a pair (Xtreme White Plus), though you can find them for $50; (Bimmerworld) and also they do not make an H8.

[SMSgt B]

Be aware that the downside of any of these bulbs is reduced light output. They achieve a "cooler" color temperature with a blue-coated lamp. The blue obviously absorbs a portion of the light.

The PIAA H3s are better than others, I believe, but they are $72 a pair (Xtreme White Plus), though you can find them for $55; and they also do not make an H8.

Thanks for the heads up, but just wonder if it really matters on the light output if they are just for the halos and corner lights. Good news if they don't work out...only lost $42.00 :D

[GregW / Oregon]

Thanks for the heads up, but just wonder if it really matters on the light output if they are just for the halos and corner lights.
Well, more light is usually better, though you are right these lights are nto as critical as headlights.

[MTrizzy]

Greg, thanks for the feedback sorry to hear about the H8s not fitting...that last picture gives a real good idea of how this install will go, that space looks real tight i can already feel my hands cramping. ha.

[FifthStreetz]

The GP Thunders should fit without a problem, most of the E92ers use GP thunders and i havnt heard one problem about fitment.

Greg, if you can, return the bimmian H8s if you cant get them to fit correctly and try the GPs.

[///Mantis]

The GP Thunders should fit without a problem, most of the E92ers use GP thunders and i havnt heard one problem about fitment.

Greg, if you can, return the bimmian H8s if you cant get them to fit correctly and try the GPs.

GP Thunders are alright. i wish they were a tad brighter. but they still make a HUGE difference. I had them on my 335, they fit just fine.

[DJ9]

Greg- I've used PIAA for years and years... while expensive, they really are quality.

Do the cornering lights come on only come on under hard cornering?

Thanks!

[Eclipse Motors]

I got my GP 8500s for $24 shipped from techsunny.com. Very fast shipping as well. The install was very simple.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpost.php?p=574866&postcount=3

http://www.techsunny.com/GP_Thunder_8500K_H8_Xenon_Plasma/H8_35W/partinfo-id-3228514.html

[GregW / Oregon]

Greg- I've used PIAA for years and years... while expensive, they really are quality.

Do the cornering lights come on only come on under hard cornering?

Thanks!
PIAA is great. Cornering lights activate under 40 mph for cornering (not sure the steering wheel angle required).

[DJ9]

PIAA is great. Cornering lights activate under 40 mph for cornering (not sure the steering wheel angle required).

So, basically they'll never be on..hehehe, joking.

[FifthStreetz]

So, basically they'll never be on..hehehe, joking.

LOL nice

[GregW / Oregon]

So, basically they'll never be on..hehehe, joking.
Only when entering my drivewy or parking garage at work. :)

[///Mantis]

Greg! what happened to ur siggy man? no more 6MT club? :cry:

[GregW / Oregon]

Just discovered the license plate is lit by LEDs under the trunk handle. Very white light--cool!

[///Mantis]

Just discovered the license plate is lit by LEDs under the trunk handle. Very white light--cool!

yah all 08 E92's got a really bright one... i never understood why that's good. id opt for things to make lic plate dimmer :confused2

maybe to protect the stupid people who drive and try to read ur lic plate from hitting each other on the road?

[GregW / Oregon]

Just got an authorization to return the H8s that didn't fit properly to Bimmian. They said they were a new product and hadn't run across that. Downside is they are in Canada, so the return needs a PIA customs form and must be mailed from the PO. Not sure I will order from them again.

Oh, they did give me the option of keeping them and getting a $20 credit.

[Eclipse Motors]

Just got an authorization to return the H8s that didn't fit properly to Bimmian. They said they were a new product and hadn't run across that. Downside is they are in Canada, so the return needs a PIA customs form and must be mailed from the PO. Not sure I will order from them again.

Oh, they did give me the option of keeping them and getting a $20 credit.

Greg, Bimmian has always sucked hard. Never order from them.

[rvacha]

GregW-
I just put Luminics H8s in my car and they too were "lose". Visually inspecting them I could see no dimensional differences. It appears the issue is that the grommet/washer is simply more flexible than the OEM ones so they don't fit as snugly. I have no reason to believe they will come lose and they seem to seal well. I didn't see yours, so maybe your issue was different, but I thought I'd throw it out there

[nechronics]

How do they look? Take pictures!! :)

[rvacha]

They look OK.... but I was hoping for much bluer. I might go the LED route for a real blue, but only if the prices come down. Replacing the H8s is a real PIA so I'm happy stalling!

[ChinoOrtega]

I just installed H8 8500 from GP and Mtec Super Whites H3, here's how it looks, hope you guys like it,

[Eclipse Motors]

GregW-
I just put Luminics H8s in my car and they too were "lose". Visually inspecting them I could see no dimensional differences. It appears the issue is that the grommet/washer is simply more flexible than the OEM ones so they don't fit as snugly. I have no reason to believe they will come lose and they seem to seal well. I didn't see yours, so maybe your issue was different, but I thought I'd throw it out there

You're supposed to use the OEM orange washers on the GPs.

[yahtzee]

Good luck with Bimmian. I haven't read much about them recently, but I know they used to be pretty bad with messing up orders and customer service.

What color is in your sig?

[rvacha]

These are cornering lights or "corner-illuminating lights". These are in addition to the adaptive headlights.

From the manual, "In tight curves at speeds up to approx. 40 mph/70 km/h, e.g. on mountainaous roads or when turning, an additional corner-illuminating lamp is switched on that lights up the inside area of the curve." On many new cars the fog lights do this, but since the M3 doesn't have fog lights...

The cornering lights also turn on whenever the lights are on and the car is put in reverse, regardless of speed. Seems to be an undocumented feature.

[GregW / Oregon]

The cornering lights also turn on whenever the lights are on and the car is put in reverse, regardless of speed. Seems to be an undocumented feature.
Hmmm... interesting. Can't imagine the reason for that, though. Add to the trivia collection. Hey, we should have a trivia sticky!

[gadget]

I just installed H8 8500 from GP and Mtec Super Whites H3, here's how it looks, hope you guys like it,

Very nice, I like the color since it doesn't have a ricer look to it. :thumbsup:
Is the first pic with the OEM lights?

[cowmoo32]

What color is in your sig?

Jerez Black. I pshopped the wheels/tint.

[GregW / Oregon]

What I just noticed yesterday, is the halos run at reduced brightness when you turn on the parking lights manually (very yellow), but enable the DRLs and they are much brighter.

[OzStriker]

Thats right Greg, so during the day I leave my lights in the Auto or Off position, DRLs are activated in iDrive and are bright during the day. In Auto, when the sensor turns on the low beams, the DRLs dim, I assume this is so they aren't too bright in low light conditions.

[GregW / Oregon]

Thats right Greg, so during the day I leave my lights in the Auto or Off position, DRLs are activated in iDrive and are bright during the day. In Auto, when the sensor turns on the low beams, the DRLs dim, I assume this is so they aren't too bright in low light conditions.
I wish there was an easier way than iDrive to choose dimmed or bright. The only time I'd want them dimmed is when they are truly use as parking lights.

[GregW / Oregon]

I wonder if these PIAA LED conversions would work on the M3? Says it is for the E90. Doesn't look anything like the H8s, though. The regular E90 must use different bulbs?

BMW 3 SERIES LED RING BULB

Twin Pack PN 19432 - $188.85

http://www.piaa.com/LEDs/LED-images/bmw3-ring.jpg

http://www.shopatron.com/product/product_id=PIA19432/353.0

[MTrizzy]

Anyone know anything about this product from PIAA?

http://www.priracing.com/product.php/2378/1/piaa-led-angel-eye-bmw-e92--e93--e60--e70-upgrade-kit

...anyone tried it out? M3 applicable?

[Shade]

I wonder if these PIAA LED conversions would work on the M3? Says it is for the E90. Doesn't look anything like the H8s, though. The regular E90 must use different bulbs?

BMW 3 SERIES LED RING BULB

Twin Pack PN 19432 - $188.85

http://www.piaa.com/LEDs/LED-images/bmw3-ring.jpg

http://www.shopatron.com/product/product_id=PIA19432/353.0

no it wont work on the M3. These are for Reg e90 bimmer.

E92 angel eye mechanics are different with the reg e90 car. All model of e9x M3 is base on E92 angel eye mechanics.

[Shade]

Anyone know anything about this product from PIAA?

http://www.priracing.com/product.php/2378/1/piaa-led-angel-eye-bmw-e92--e93--e60--e70-upgrade-kit

...anyone tried it out? M3 applicable?

Yes its an awesome Product. However, they are very costly. over 300+ USD for an angel eye light bulb.


The only problem with all e92 model angel eye is whenever u turn on the headlights. the outter rim is very dim and it just doesnt look good.

ppl are working on a solution atm, but LED technology is one better way than the GP Thunder bulb. Again, they are costly. if u are willing to pay for it, go for it, otherwise just wait and hope someone found a solution.

[PrinceSmooth]

I don't think we'll ever see a reasonable solution in any time soon... No solution for the 3 series E92s; don't think the M3 will get any special attention either... at least I hope it will, it deserves the best!

[OzStriker]

Surely an auto electrician could pretty quickly work out how to ensure full bright angel eyes when low beams are ON.

[Shade]

Surely an auto electrician could pretty quickly work out how to ensure full bright angel eyes when low beams are ON.

pretty sure they are working on that since the day when E92 arrive ! Hopefully we get a solution soon

[GregW / Oregon]

Yes its an awesome Product. However, they are very costly. over 300+ USD for an angel eye light bulb.

The only problem with all e92 model angel eye is whenever u turn on the headlights. the outter rim is very dim and it just doesnt look good.


As I posted above, they are much brighter in DRL mode. LEDs are trick to dim, so I question if they will work properly in parking lamp dimmed mode. I am going to contact PIAA for advice.

[GregW / Oregon]

"No we do not have those at all."

Thanks
Alan Avery
PIAA Customer Service
503-489-6666
1-800-525-7422
Service@piaa-usa.com

[MTrizzy]

"No we do not have those at all."

Thanks
Alan Avery
PIAA Customer Service
503-489-6666
1-800-525-7422
Service@piaa-usa.com

:cry:

[PrinceSmooth]

you guys happen to see these?

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127432

[Shade]

you guys happen to see these?

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127432

Yup they are from PIAA japan, too bad the PIAA USA didnt import these.

[OzStriker]

I did a writeup over in e90post:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2489771#post2489771

[GregW / Oregon]

you guys happen to see these?

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127432
The PIAA LEDs are the ones I want. I will find a way to get them.

[MTrizzy]

Keep me updated...thnx

[Shade]

The PIAA LEDs are the ones I want. I will find a way to get them.

You can order it thru Wheelsdude.com or have a frd in Japan to get it for you. My PIAA LED will arrive this week and i will be able to put it on my frd's 335i to test it out.

I will post pic and review for u all. :happyanim:

[cowmoo32]

Holy shit those things are expensive, but I want them. The only thing I don't like about the Thunders is the brightness.

[GregW / Oregon]

Holy shit those things are expensive, but I want them. The only thing I don't like about the Thunders is the brightness.
Yes, adding blue tint to bulbs to make them "whiter" cuts Visible Transmittance (VT) or output making it through the capsule. The LEDs seem like a good choice, and they will not burn out in your lifetime. I wonder how they respond to the dimmed status when you turn on the parking lights? LEDs typically take special dimming equipment.

[cowmoo32]

I don't know. I think an LED is safe as long as the diode forward voltage & current aren't exceeded. I can't imagine running them at a lower current for a short period of time would hurt them. In fact, I built an LED board a few months ago and ran it off of two D cell batteries to see how long it would last. As the batteries died, the LEDs just got dimmer. So I guess the same would go for the current the car is sending to them. As far as I know, the LEDs I used are fine; the lower current from the dying battery didn't hurt them.

[badfish]

I just did these on my car. I got the bulbs from Jlevisw. I had the same problem with a loose bulb on one side. I tried swapping the rubber seals and that did not help. Then I took a close look at the bulb to see what the deal was.

What I noticed is that at the base of each of the tabs there was an indentation. The OEM bulb had a much more pronounced indentation than the aftermarket bulb. Some of the tabs on the aftermarket bulb barely had an indentation. It's not easy trying to put that indentation in there so what I did was bend the tabs back. Even that wasn't easy. But the tabs need to be bent back slightly toward the base. After that, the bulb went in nice and snug.

If your bulbs fit, it will be an easy job. If they give you grief, you can spend an hour doing this.

[Shade]

Just got my PIAA LED ANGEL eye. I AM NOT IMPRESSED. Its not as bright as GP thunder... however the good thing is it balance the inner and outer ring.

I tried to run it during daytime... its not visible at all under the sun.

Updating pix soon.

[MDCTFTW]

Is anyone getting H3s for the corners?

[MTrizzy]

Is anyone getting H3s for the corners?

Got me a pair, along with the GP thunders. Plan on putting them in this weekend. ill try to get you guys some good comparison pics (OE vs. After Market). I don't have high hopes for the GP thunders, but if i really hate them i can just take them out. :D

by the way the H3s I got are the Piaa H3 Super Plasma GTX

[MDCTFTW]

GP Thunders 8500k 35W H8 on the way via ebay for $21.

Car not even here yet.

[FifthStreetz]

GP Thunders 8500k 35W H8 on the way via ebay for $21.

Car not even here yet.

Nice

Be ready for some cut up knuckles and hands lol. I would suggest finding someone with small hands or small pliers.

[cowmoo32]

I don't know why everyone keeps saying that. I have pretty big hands, and it wasn't that bad at all for me. I scraped my hands up more pulling the headliner to remove the upper console to hardwire my V1.

[fmquadri]

I don't know why everyone keeps saying that. I have pretty big hands, and it wasn't that bad at all for me. I scraped my hands up more pulling the headliner to remove the upper console to hardwire my V1.

I agree... changing the H8's and H3's was the easiest mod yet... compared to the ghetto way i did the grill mod... the H8's were a cake walk.

took me all of 3 mins to change out the H8s.

much better than stock.. but not quite perfect with the headlights on i think.

[Big Windy]

The PIAA LEDs are the ones I want. I will find a way to get them.

classic. can't wait to hear what you find out. i am anxious!

okay. a quick search yielded a not so cheap solution: http://www.priracing.com/product.php/2378/1/piaa-led-angel-eye-bmw-e92--e93--e60--e70-upgrade-kit

172 british pounds. but at least they are available.....if anyone can find cheaper.....

[Jinxter]

classic. can't wait to hear what you find out. i am anxious!

okay. a quick search yielded a not so cheap solution: http://www.priracing.com/product.php/2378/1/piaa-led-angel-eye-bmw-e92--e93--e60--e70-upgrade-kit

172 british pounds. but at least they are available.....if anyone can find cheaper.....

there is a new system coming out similar to PIAA no idea on cost but it will be avalible in 2 months in the states. Its rated to work even better then PIAA. So Mid June...

[GregW / Oregon]

there is a new system coming out similar to PIAA no idea on cost but it will be avalible in 2 months in the states. Its rated to work even better then PIAA. So Mid June...
From whom? Where did you hear this?

[Big Windy]

Greg, and others, you guys should not buy these things. Check this link and see the day pics. i guess these things look great during the night, but you can hardly tell during the day. just a word of caution...this is bad news for all of us considering these.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134931&highlight=PIAA+angel+eye

[GregW / Oregon]

Greg, and others, you guys should not buy these things. Check this link and see the day pics. i guess these things look great during the night, but you can hardly tell during the day. just a word of caution...this is bad news for all of us considering these.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134931&highlight=PIAA+angel+eye
Yeah, I saw that. I was wondering if it was an installation issue, or a product issue.

Guess I'll modify my Xenisis H8s to work for now and wait for something better.

[Jinxter]

I have a distributer that I brought my car in to within a week of getting it and we tried out multiple possibilities for white angel eyes including HID bulb GP thunder and a 65W hyper white bulb.

None worked well aside the HID. But the HID was just ridiculous. My rings light up like headlights and I could hardly even look at them.

We thought about producing a lower power hid kit but don’t think that’s possible or at least I don’t know if it is.

I can’t disclose any information about it yet as its still being developed and I don’t have the ok from my distributer (I forgot to ask if I can list names)

But just as soon as I hear word I will let you know. Because he is local I will probably be his test car when they come in.

BTW he is creating this set with the following aspects in mind:

Daylight visibility
Night visibility
even distribution between halo's
solid light (no strobe effect under camera)

[GregW / Oregon]

IBTW he is creating this set with the following aspects in mind:

Daylight visibility
Night visibility
even distribution between halo's
solid light (no strobe effect under camera)
Thanks. Another criteria is that they illuminate well under both parking light (dimmed) and DRL (full) brightness. I don't like the fact that they are dimmed when I just turn on the parking lights. I don't want to run them all the time, just at night or in marginal lighting conditions, and turning on the DRLs means going into iDrivel.

[yahtzee]

Great mod.......less than 15 mins for H8's and H3's......much better......

[GregW / Oregon]

Great mod.......less than 15 mins for H8's and H3's......much better......
Well, the Xenesis H8 lights I tried to return to Bimmian cam back from Postes Canada for unexplained reasons. So, guess I'm out $45 on that deal (lights plus return shipping). Don't think I'm dealing with them again.

The problem was the lights did not fit snugly. I tried bending the tabs, but it did not help enough. I'm waiting for a good LED solution.

[MDCTFTW]

Anyone have pics with H3 replacements?

[monsta]

Anyone have pics with H3 replacements?

+1
I just ordered the GP H8's and was thinking about the H3's but want pics also....Fifth? Mtrizzy? Bueller Bueller?

[ChinoOrtega]

H3 from M teck super white, I'll probably change to PIAA

[Jinxter]

H3 from M teck super white, I'll probably change to PIAA

ok how do you turn on the H3's? do you have to jsut turn the steering wheel? or can you actually activate them?

[ChinoOrtega]

yeah they are also the DRL's, activate them thru M drive: Lights

[Jinxter]

yeah they are also the DRL's, activate them thru M drive: Lights

interesting I will have to talk with my SA then. Mine dont turn on while in DRL mode.

Only way I have seen them on is while turning.

[MTrizzy]

interesting I will have to talk with my SA then. Mine dont turn on while in DRL mode.

Only way I have seen them on is while turning.

Same here. let me know what you find out...maybe we are missing something.

[ChinoOrtega]

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106404&highlight=owners+manual

page 87 DRL's

[bmwprince4life]

bought mine for 2 sets for 30 bucks

[monsta]

H3 from M teck super white, I'll probably change to PIAA

were can I get the Mtec from?

[ChinoOrtega]

Here's where I got mine from http://www.automotivelightingusa.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=10_19

[GregW / Oregon]

yeah they are also the DRL's, activate them thru M drive: Lights

Same here. let me know what you find out...maybe we are missing something.
Indeed, you are missing something! The DRLs on the M3 are the halo/corona/angel eye lamps operated at a higher output than in parking mode. The H3 inner lights are "corner-illuminating" lights only, that operate under 40 mph on the side of a turn.

[MTrizzy]

gotcha.... went and took a look with the DRL on and off ans noticed the difference.

[Shade]

I think i am getting Bellof LED angel angel... i know its exp. but i like that blue color on Cyba's car... i wonder any cheap bulb can do that kind of blueish output.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6214/544rw6.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2287/dsc0295sc3.jpg

[MDCTFTW]

Damn that vert is sexy. Blue angels not so much though.

[MTrizzy]

[QUOTE=ShadeM3;2538021]I think i am getting Bellof LED angel angel... i know its exp. but i like that blue color on Cyba's car... i wonder any cheap bulb can do that kind of blueish output.

OP says not to get too excited, performance during the day is not much better or the same as GP Thunders... Not sure it warrants the price tag unless you enamored by the blue angels at night. Personally i would prefer something a little less blue...has too much of a fast and furious fell to it.

in either case though that is one sexy drop.

[JPH]

As I posted above, they are much brighter in DRL mode. LEDs are trick to dim, so I question if they will work properly in parking lamp dimmed mode. I am going to contact PIAA for advice.

Let us know what you learn from PIAA.....

[GregW / Oregon]

Let us know what you learn from PIAA.....
Well, didn't learn anything since they don't import the H8 LED replacment into the US. It's gotten some negative reviews on brightness, anyhow. Still looking.

[GregW / Oregon]

I think i am getting Bellof LED angel angel... i know its exp. but i like that blue color on Cyba's car... i wonder any cheap bulb can do that kind of blueish output.

Link for the Bellof units?

[REP1KRR]

....Get the same Watts or you'll get error code.

Greg and all,

Thanks for the write up on this. I just ordered my 1st mod:

GP 8500K H8 35W
GP 8500K H3 55W

Total cost: $42.45 including shipping at hidlightsusa.com

Does this work, or do they have to be the same wattage? 55w H3 and 35w H8?

[REP1KRR]

...I went like fifthstreetz GP thunders 8500k H8 for angel and Mtec super white H3, pretty inexpensive bulbs compared to PIAA, when they come out with H8 I'll get them both.

MTEC 2X Super White H3
-or-
MTEC 4X Super White H3

http://www.automotivelightingusa.com/index.php?cPath=10_19&sort=20a&main_page=index&filter_id=5

.

[GregW / Oregon]

Does this work, or do they have to be the same wattage? 55w H3 and 35w H8?
The wattages you quote are the stock wattages.

[REP1KRR]

The wattages you quote are the stock wattages.
Thanks Greg. I should have checked that out. I misinterpreted what Chino said about "same". I get it, same as stock, not same as eachother. Sorry... :rolleyes:

[Shade]

Link for the Bellof units?

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2538021&postcount=129



or this abt the install post

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122114

[E92-Lighting]

gp thunder 7500k

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/7/7/5/1/1/9/webimg/163084233_o.jpg

gp thunder 8500k

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/7/7/5/1/1/9/webimg/163084268_o.jpg

[tmntmn]

here some led bulb by m-forcedesign.com

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e354/tmntmn/LED%20angel%20eyes/IMG_2227.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e354/tmntmn/LED%20angel%20eyes/IMG_2224.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e354/tmntmn/LED%20angel%20eyes/IMG_2222.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e354/tmntmn/LED%20angel%20eyes/IMG_2236.jpg

[Jack28]

Im interested in doing the GP 8500k but what I would want to know is there a
way to make the Outer (Larger) Rings Light up just like the Inner (Smaller) Rings?
Even at some points and angles the Outer Rings don't look like they are lite at all

Is there anything I can do to make the Outer Rings Light up stronger just like the inner
Rings?

Thanksq

[Big Windy]

Im interested in doing the GP 8500k but what I would want to know is there a
way to make the Outer (Larger) Rings Light up just like the Inner (Smaller) Rings?
Even at some points and angles the Outer Rings don't look like they are lite at all

Is there anything I can do to make the Outer Rings Light up stronger just like the inner
Rings?

Thanksq

the simple answer is NO. it is very difficult to get equal illumination, LUX is one of the best for this, but it is not available for e92.

[E92-Lighting]

we have a solution for this coming out, we will keep you posted

[moog55]

GP Thunder 8500 all the way. They are inexpensive and give results that are on par with expensive (overpriced) LED solutions.

[E92-Lighting]

GP Thunder 8500 all the way. They are inexpensive and give results that are on par with expensive (overpriced) LED solutions.

:thumbsup:

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/7/7/5/1/1/9/webimg/164273310_o.jpg

[chasem3]

here some led bulb by m-forcedesign.com

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e354/tmntmn/LED%20angel%20eyes/IMG_2227.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e354/tmntmn/LED%20angel%20eyes/IMG_2224.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e354/tmntmn/LED%20angel%20eyes/IMG_2222.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e354/tmntmn/LED%20angel%20eyes/IMG_2236.jpg

Has anyone tried these LED ones? I am thinking about getting these.

[camaross305]

how about this

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190112





http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff259/idleize350/100_1493.jpg

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff259/idleize350/2823235530_6e5c734392_b.jpg

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff259/idleize350/3043864887_0cf6927aa4_b.jpg

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190112

[E92-Lighting]

we have been happy with our Racing Dash LED for e92/e93 couple, these are plug and play

[E92-Lighting]

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/7/7/5/1/1/9/webimg/184112744_o.jpg

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/7/7/5/1/1/9/webimg/184112469_o.jpg