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jym3
03-20-2008, 04:42 PM
Can somebody confirm that there is no green tax for the m3?

Gearhead999s
03-20-2008, 04:53 PM
Can somebody confirm that there is no green tax for the m3?

Not on the M3 Coupe!I have my final bill of sale and there is nothing there for the green tax.The fuel tax in Ontario is only $250.An Audi RS4 for comparision is $1000 & $1200 FYI.

jym3
03-20-2008, 05:23 PM
Thanks! That confirms my reserch that the m3's combined fuel consumsion of 12.8L/100km falls just short of the 13L/100km when the green tax kicks in at $1000.

bmwpwer
03-24-2008, 12:57 PM
I just ordered my M3 coupe and got hit with a $1200 gas tax. Is that correct? I notice one of you only got hit for $250.

goldminer
03-24-2008, 03:35 PM
Thanks! That confirms my reserch that the m3's combined fuel consumsion of 12.8L/100km falls just short of the 13L/100km when the green tax kicks in at $1000.


I was in the BMW Toronto showroom on Saturday looking at an M3 coupe on the showroom floor. The sticker for the car showed a $1,000 gas guzzler tax in the lease cost calculation.

Gearhead999s
03-24-2008, 09:38 PM
I was in the BMW Toronto showroom on Saturday looking at an M3 coupe on the showroom floor. The sticker for the car showed a $1,000 gas guzzler tax in the lease cost calculation.

Well i picked my car this afternoon and confirmed the $250 fuel consumption tax and no green levy.If there is a mistake on the taxes I guess I could end up cutting a cheque later,but of course I usually end up doing that every April anyways:confused2

Gearhead999s
03-25-2008, 11:16 AM
The official highway milege is 9.7l/100kms in Canada which means $250 Gas tax in Ontario and no Green Tax.That is official from BMW Canada.

bmwpwer
03-25-2008, 01:44 PM
I did some research, as I have been charged the $1200 gas tax fee or green fee. I called two dealerships in Ontario yesterday and got two different answers. So I went on the Governmant Green tax site and here is what it said.

The tax is based on a weighted average of L/100Kms. You take 55% of the city rating and 45% of the highway rating and calculate the average. If it is over 13 L/100kms and under 14, there is a $1000 green fee levied.

Based on my calculations using U.S. fuel ratings (I have not seen any for Canada yet), the M3 Coupe falls in that range and therefore, is subject to the $1000 fee.

Here is the link: http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/agency/budget/2007/excise-e.html

Gearhead999s
03-25-2008, 01:51 PM
The CDN ratings are quite a bit higher than the US ones at least in highway rating.In the Canadian M3 brochure that I just got this AM it shows 9.7L/100 for highway,but I cannot recall the city rating:confused2

Gearhead999s
03-25-2008, 01:58 PM
Ok here is the official info.

Year: 2008 View Legend


Make/Model Class Eng Size/
# Cyl Trans #gears Fuel Consumption Rank CO2 kg per year
Type $/yr L/yr L/100km Class All
City Hwy
BMW 323i C 2.5 / 6 M6+ Z $1840 1840 11.1 6.9 71 246 4416
BMW 323i C 2.5 / 6 E6+ Z $1840 1840 11.2 6.7 68 238 4416
BMW 328i C 3.0 / 6 M6+ Z $1860 1860 11.2 7.0 73 260 4464
BMW 328i C 3.0 / 6 E6+ Z $1860 1860 11.1 7.0 72 255 4464
BMW 328xi C 3.0 / 6 M6+ Z $2040 2040 12.3 7.6 105 406 4896
BMW 328xi C 3.0 / 6 E6+ Z $2020 2020 11.9 7.9 101 384 4848
BMW 335i C 3.0 / 6 M6+ Z $2060 2060 12.4 7.7 114 443 4944
BMW 335i C 3.0 / 6 E6+ Z $1980 1980 11.9 7.6 99 366 4752
BMW 335xi C 3.0 / 6 M6+ Z $2100 2100 12.6 8.0 118 488 5040
BMW 335xi C 3.0 / 6 E6+ Z $2060 2060 12.3 7.9 115 450 4944
BMW M3 C 4.0 / 8 M6+ Z $2560 2560 15.3 9.7 134 782 6144


So that works out the factored average of 12.78 L/100 so there is no green Tax on a M3.

bmwpwer
03-25-2008, 02:22 PM
Thanks. I just called my dealership and they gave me the same numbers you just did. Therefore, I should not be charged the green tax. They are going to get back to me.

m3tor
03-25-2008, 09:52 PM
I wasn't charged the green tax when I bought mine.

my2008m3
03-26-2008, 08:54 PM
Recent Vancouver M3 purchase:
Advance Disposal Fee (vehicle w/out spare tire)....20.00
Air Cond exise tax....100.00
Battery levy....5.00
No Green Tax

thug123
03-27-2008, 07:13 AM
dealer gonna charge me $1200 green tax, shit happens

Gearhead999s
03-27-2008, 09:06 AM
dealer gonna charge me $1200 green tax, shit happens

Dont pay it!Tell them to do some proper research!I found out what I needed to know about this in less than 5 minutes with a little searching.

bmwpwer
03-27-2008, 11:02 AM
I agree. Do not pay. I am waiting to hear back from my dealer and will be very annoyed if they say I have to pay. If so, I will escalate to BMW Canada Customer service. Will let you know what happens.

lebreeze
03-27-2008, 12:35 PM
I live in windsor and i have also checked with a dealer in london and i am getting hit with the same 1200 dollar gas tax from both

shittty but they say that the category it falls into. I only had to pay 75 dollars gas tax on my 335

lebreeze

Gearhead999s
03-27-2008, 04:53 PM
I live in windsor and i have also checked with a dealer in london and i am getting hit with the same 1200 dollar gas tax from both

shittty but they say that the category it falls into. I only had to pay 75 dollars gas tax on my 335

lebreeze

They are quite wrong based on the Transport Canada published figures.

kalch
03-28-2008, 11:58 AM
this is one thread i'm going to follow.

schnell325
03-28-2008, 04:17 PM
Recent Vancouver M3 purchase:
Advance Disposal Fee (vehicle w/out spare tire)....20.00
Air Cond exise tax....100.00
Battery levy....5.00
No Green Tax


Same for my BC bound M3.

bmwpwer
03-28-2008, 04:27 PM
Okay, so here is the latest. I called BMW Canada customer service directly. They took my question, investigated it and just called me back.
Direct from BMW Canada - M3 Coupes are NOT subject to the green tax, only the M3 Convertible is.
Just left a message with my dealer to have my invoice reduced.

schnell325
03-28-2008, 08:03 PM
Good job!

my2008m3
03-29-2008, 01:27 PM
Since we are talking price gouging here.....in BC we pay a 10% PST for cars over 55grand....plus the 5%GST is a total of 15%.

Loaded M3 is over 100 grand.

Fun costs money.

bmwpwer
04-01-2008, 04:45 PM
Yahoo!! My dealer just called me and they admit they made an error. They are returning the $1200 Green Tax fee to me ASAP!! It should never have been charged.

lebreeze
04-01-2008, 08:58 PM
but did you still have to pay the 1200 gas tax ?? i had too

bmwpwer
04-02-2008, 04:17 PM
Yes. There is an Ontario Gas Tax of $1200 that all Ontario buyers have to pay. It is based on the L/100KM for highway. Anything over 9.5 is subject to $1200 in Ontario and the M3 comes in at 9.7 highway.

slammedm3
04-12-2008, 02:34 PM
so how did some people get away with not having to pay this 1000 or 1200 bucks?