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J BONE
06-08-2008, 09:03 PM
I have no idea what to do about the suspension. I hate the way the front end looks. :mad0260: I am leasing the car so I don't want to do coil overs. Will springs work? If so, which ones? How long will they last? Sorry for all the questions. Everytime I search, I find different ansers. I just want the car to look like the 335i not a 4x4! :D

Kev
06-08-2008, 09:46 PM
Personally, I think springs is a bad idea because the shocks are not made for that spring rate. You'll feel that your car is wobbly at high speed and might bottom out going over bumps. If you think the KWV3 has too many features that are not useful to you, at least get the H&R xi specific coilovers. Yes, you'll have to pay for the labor to put it in and take it out, but the ride quality over just springs with stock shocks would be well worth it.

J BONE
06-08-2008, 09:50 PM
Not really what I wanted to hear! Thanks Kev. It seems like that is what most people prefer though. All I want is to lower the car an inch or so. Damn! ~$1200 plus labor for 1"?? Doesn't seem worth it.

Craig@SupremePower
06-08-2008, 09:51 PM
I think you'll be ok with just the springs and if the stock shocks go you could always upgrade to some Koni's. Coilovers are great as well and you'll get back some cash when you sell em, we have the KW-V3's as well as the H&R's and will be carrying FK soon as well though i'm not 100% sure they offer a Xi specific unit!! If I can help you in anyway let me know...:D

Kev
06-08-2008, 09:54 PM
I think you'll be ok with just the springs and if the stock shocks go you could always upgrade to some Koni's. Coilovers are great as well and you'll get back some cash when you sell em, we have the KW-V3's as well as the H&R's and will be carrying FK soon as well though i'm not 100% sure they offer a Xi specific unit!! If I can help you in anyway let me know...:D
Craig,

Shoot me a PM on the KW V3's please!

Kev
06-08-2008, 09:55 PM
Not really what I wanted to hear! Thanks Kev. It seems like that is what most people prefer though. All I want is to lower the car an inch or so. Damn! ~$1200 plus labor for 1"?? Doesn't seem worth it.
You'd still be paying comparable labor for the springs. You might save a little bit on the spring, but if you drive your car in any spirited way, I think there's a high chance that you'll regret your decision. Also, the coilovers give you the flexibility of rising the car during winter.

J BONE
06-08-2008, 09:56 PM
^ Will contact you when I decide what to do. Thanks! So damn confusing. Should of just bought the damn car! :slap:

Craig@SupremePower
06-08-2008, 09:59 PM
Sent bro.... get some guys together we can do a GB!! :DCraig,

Shoot me a PM on the KW V3's please!

J BONE
06-08-2008, 10:03 PM
Sent bro.... get some guys together we can do a GB!! :D

Isn't phozenstone working on a GB for the H&R coilovers?

J BONE
06-08-2008, 10:04 PM
^ Something like $500 shipped? :lol:

Craig@SupremePower
06-08-2008, 10:08 PM
Lol I like that....:lol: .. he's mentioned it but not sure how serious he is about setting it up, but the more the merrier!! The more guys that get in the steeper the discount!!! :D^ Something like $500 shipped? :lol:

Kev
06-08-2008, 10:08 PM
Isn't phozenstone working on a GB for the H&R coilovers?

This is gonna be a KW V3 GB :)

^ Something like $500 shipped? :lol:

:laughabov :bellyroll If that's true

UdubBadger
06-08-2008, 10:19 PM
JBONE

JUST GET THE FRICKIN H&R SPORT SPRINGS ALREADY!!!!

you've been tossing over this for like over a month now.

J BONE
06-08-2008, 10:21 PM
Udud, I know! It is killing me already!! :cry: Not sure why I can't make up my mind. :slap:

saam
06-09-2008, 02:01 PM
yeah i have an XI and i'm also looking to get some H&R sport springs and from what i have heard and seen they seem to work fine with the XI stock shocks plus i feel the XI's tent to stand higher than the regular suspension on I models.

J BONE
06-09-2008, 05:12 PM
yeah i have an XI and i'm also looking to get some H&R sport springs and from what i have heard and seen they seem to work fine with the XI stock shocks plus i feel the XI's tent to stand higher than the regular suspension on I models.

Yes, they do stand higher than the i's.

cfab
06-09-2008, 10:57 PM
Gentlemen,

I'm a new owner of an 08 335xi - previously A43.2

The ride height is terrible.
Sooo loose in the front with "spirited" driving.

Is there anything I can do to improve 1. The ride height and 2. The handling?

Very impressed with the vechicle in general. Dissapointed that BMW can't provide a lower ride height on the xdrive model.

yes, yes...the 335i is lower, but I'm addicted to outstanding traction in the winter.

Much appreciated.

Calgary Agent
06-09-2008, 11:09 PM
Gentlemen,

I'm a new owner of an 08 335xi - previously A43.2

The ride height is terrible.
Sooo loose in the front with "spirited" driving.

Is there anything I can do to improve 1. The ride height and 2. The handling?

Very impressed with the vechicle in general. Dissapointed that BMW can't provide a lower ride height on the xdrive model.

yes, yes...the 335i is lower, but I'm addicted to outstanding traction in the winter.

Much appreciated.

Easy fix: KWV3 coilovers. The only other complete suspension mod (for the Xi) is the H&R coilover.

pm me if you'd like details ;)

UdubBadger
06-09-2008, 11:33 PM
+1

worth it too.

ChuckBimmer
06-10-2008, 12:03 AM
Gotta love the KWV3 :happyanim:

Sparkplug
06-10-2008, 02:39 AM
I've got the KW var 3's on order. Back order to be precise :(

Cal. Agent and crew, help me with the settings. I want the 4x4 look delete option, but I don't want to be slammin' into curbs or help the City with snow clearing in the winter. The suspension needs to be drilled down more for my liking, but I still want my sleath sleeper ride to be reasonably comfy when cruising. Can I corner on a rail, without shaking my fillings out?

Am I right that the compression and rebound settings are adjustable for low speed driving only?

Am I right in thinking that if I adjusted the drop to a notch below the highest setting, I would end up with a drop just below the stock 335i. And if I dialed the suspension to a couple notches below softest, I would still end up with a sportier more precise suspension than the 335i with sport suspension?

In other words, here is where I want to be:

335i stock -> 335xi -> 335i sport -> perfect <- Lotus Elise

Calgary Agent
06-10-2008, 10:36 AM
I've got the KW var 3's on order. Back order to be precise :(

Cal. Agent and crew, help me with the settings. I want the 4x4 look delete option, but I don't want to be slammin' into curbs or help the City with snow clearing in the winter. The suspension needs to be drilled down more for my liking, but I still want my sleath sleeper ride to be reasonably comfy when cruising. Can I corner on a rail, without shaking my fillings out?

Am I right that the compression and rebound settings are adjustable for low speed driving only?

Am I right in thinking that if I adjusted the drop to a notch below the highest setting, I would end up with a drop just below the stock 335i. And if I dialed the suspension to a couple notches below softest, I would still end up with a sportier more precise suspension than the 335i with sport suspension?

In other words, here is where I want to be:

335i stock -> 335xi -> 335i sport -> perfect <- Lotus Elise

Terry - Nice to hear you've decided to join the dark side with KWV3 suspension upgrade ;)

As far as ride height, I'm not sure what kind of drop you'd have IF you were to set the V3's to highest setting. My suggestion would be to get a tape measure and physically measure the ride height of a non Xi WITH sport suspension. Distance is measured from centre of wheel to bottom edge of fender(s). You're likely somewhere around 370-375mm in the rear *currently*. Better yet, when you're at Calgary BMW later this week, they have a Dinan prepared 335 in showroom with the S2 suspension .... take your tape measure and make notes.

As far as damping and bump settings, I'd recommend the middle settings for both *which is the recommended setting from KW*

mds82
06-10-2008, 02:19 PM
I put on the H&R XI sport springs with the OEM Shocks and didn't have a problem at all.

jimmy330xi
06-10-2008, 06:43 PM
Gentlemen,

I'm a new owner of an 08 335xi - previously A43.2

The ride height is terrible.
Sooo loose in the front with "spirited" driving.

Is there anything I can do to improve 1. The ride height and 2. The handling?

Very impressed with the vechicle in general. Dissapointed that BMW can't provide a lower ride height on the xdrive model.

yes, yes...the 335i is lower, but I'm addicted to outstanding traction in the winter.

Much appreciated.


If you are looking for better handling, there's a groupbuy for UUC Sway Bars. Here is the thread. Check it out and decide if you want in.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138579

btinl
06-12-2008, 03:10 PM
I'm interested in getting some springs/shocks or coilovers for my Xi. Has a group buy started yet?

longodj
06-12-2008, 03:50 PM
btinl ask around. I don't know about a group buy but in my search for KW V3 I got some very shocking prices so just contact some companies and see what they say about KW V3 and H&R Sport Coilovers. I ended up going to Ron@Modbargains in the end.

dchen2
06-13-2008, 04:05 AM
I have a 335xi coupe. So typically how much does it cost for these H&R springs or coilovers to installed?

I see the H&R springs run ~$250 shipped and the coil overs ~$1300. What are the KVV2 quotes?

My main concern here is just judging from the modbargains product pages, it looks like the springs do a 1.3/1.2 F/R drop while the coilovers do a 1.25-2.5/.75-2 adjustable drop. However the coilovers at their highest settings is just marginally taller than the springs.

I live here in Wisconsin and judging by this last winter and my plan of doing some sporadic driving to nearby ski resorts (I'll be getting snow tires as well of course), the car's body clearance will be the limiting factor in how deep a depth of snow my car can venture into.

To be honest (I came from a stock suspension 01 Lexus GS430) I am pretty happy with the soft but still buttoned down (remember, I come from a lexus!) ride. Its just that huge 4x4 look that bothers the heck out of me :(.

Kev
06-13-2008, 07:59 AM
I have a 335xi coupe. So typically how much does it cost for these H&R springs or coilovers to installed?

I see the H&R springs run ~$250 shipped and the coil overs ~$1300. What are the KVV2 quotes?

My main concern here is just judging from the modbargains product pages, it looks like the springs do a 1.3/1.2 F/R drop while the coilovers do a 1.25-2.5/.75-2 adjustable drop. However the coilovers at their highest settings is just marginally taller than the springs.

I live here in Wisconsin and judging by this last winter and my plan of doing some sporadic driving to nearby ski resorts (I'll be getting snow tires as well of course), the car's body clearance will be the limiting factor in how deep a depth of snow my car can venture into.

To be honest (I came from a stock suspension 01 Lexus GS430) I am pretty happy with the soft but still buttoned down (remember, I come from a lexus!) ride. Its just that huge 4x4 look that bothers the heck out of me :(.
Rent a truck if you are going to a ski resort up north. By the way, are you a BADGER!?

dchen2
06-13-2008, 02:30 PM
Rent a truck if you are going to a ski resort up north. By the way, are you a BADGER!?

Though I live in Madison, I am not a badger since I graduated from a school in Utah and moved out here to work... I do have my share of friends that are graduate badgers though and I have to say, hanging with badgers on state st during the weekends is pretty fun as well ;).

Sigh... my roommate has a Jeep Cherookee(sic) which we'll use majority of time for snow runs but having that extra snow clearance (especially when I shelled out the extra money for snow wheels/tires, the xi, and now it looks like sacrificing the oem sport suspension) would be very handy.

During the last winter during the big snow storms I saw plenty of 4wd mercs and audis stuck so I know the limits of snow driving in a low slung car.

Is the modbargains range of adjustment on the coilovers accurate? E.i., on the highest KW3 or H&R CO settings would my car only be .05inches higher than the H&R street perf spring settings?

How much would the coilovers and springs typically cost to install? Anyone know any recommended shops here in Madison?