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Originally Posted by Sneaky Pete
The simple facts are that in modern F1 all the truly naturally talented drivers excelled the moment they first raced in F1...Senna, Schumacher, Alonso, Hamilton.
Verstappen didn't...sure he has learnt to win races in a dominant car but he struggled alongside Ricciardo who is a capable driver (but nothing special) both of them in a Red Bull that was capable of winning races.
It was interesting when Horner threatened to have Alonso or Sainz in to replace Perez...that was an explicit threat to Verstappen that Horner could take away his privileged position as #1 driver with an average team mate....and reverse the roles with Verstappen as the #2 driver.
Around the same time... Verstappens car had a rare mechanical failure...maybe just a coincidence...but how quickly did Jos suddenly stop shooting his mouth off.
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Originally Posted by Sneaky Pete
No one is denying that Hamilton won most of his championships because of a car performance advantage.
Did you watch the season where Rosberg won the championship? I'm guessing not, otherwise you wouldn't come out with such nonsense.
LOL you seriously believe the joke that Hamilton had a "no Verstappen" clause...brilliant.
When Verstappen was blabbing on about how he could win in the Mercedes Wolff offered him a test drive session to see how he would fare against Hamilton.
Verstappen of course bottled it, never replied and kept quiet after that.
If anyone has a clause like that in his contract it would be Verstappen...why else is Perez still there...its not because he is fast, he isn't...its because he is no threat to Verstappen taking wins.
If Verstappen was as good as you believe he would welcome any of the top drivers to join him at Red Bull to show he really is the best...but Verstappen at least understands that he would likely be shown up as decent but not special.
It is true, put Verstappen in a dominant car, set up to his preferences and with a second rate team mate he can indeed win races.
However up against Ricciardo he couldn't match him.
I don't think 3 years to get the hang of not over driving and crashing everywhere is someone who learns quickly...quite the opposite.
I do hope he ends up at Mercedes alongside Russell on equal terms then we will get a better idea of where Verstappen is in the hierarchy of drivers.
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Are you talking about Jos Verstappen ?
People evolve: during the Sydney 2000 Olympic Games Michael Phelps (15) came close to the podium only in the 200m butterfly (5th). He would dominate the next four Olympic Games, finishing as the most decorated athlete at every one. Phelps didn't win any of his 28 Olympic medals at the age of 18.
Anno 2024, Max Verstappen is an F1 war machine. And he will keep improving his grandmaster racing skills during the next seasons.