[BForbes]

All magazines sole purpose is to sell a product, you can wash it all you want.

Magazines exist to sell their own product. Not necessarily one manufacturer.

Did you say this? M3 and 135 are over weight. M6 is too, how does that one handle on the track? Any one who sais M3 is not over weight or that it doesn't feel like its over weight or what ever spin they put on it, is selling an M3!!! Most new cars today are over weight. This is bad for performance and mpg.

Where did I state an M3 is a lightweight? I said BMW can do amazing things with weight. The M with Competition package is aiming to be the best handling M car ever. Ring Times, VIR, and other roadcourses do not lie. You are arguing with yourself. You say "FALSE" to my statement regarding it matters where wait is loss. Write me the scientific reasoning behind that. Center of gravity and Unsprung weight are not equal last time I checked.

I thought forums are for enthusiasts, not enthusiast posers.

Unnecessary.