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      04-21-2012, 08:12 PM   #23
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Religion whether Islam, Christianity, Judaism, etc. doesn't advocate in any way doing bad things to people like Scotch stated.
I never stated that, never said that Christianity advocated anything. I was countering the argument that followers of Christianity are benign, compared to Muslims.

I agree 100% with your statement that none of these religions advocate the violence which has been carried out by people in their name. Fact is, so-called Christians are way ahead in murders compared to so-called muslims.

Yes, it's people like e90soflo, not religion, that declares who's not moral, and needs to be exterminated.
IPhone app won't let me edit...but your last paragraph is interesting for its irony...you advocate for violence against people that are intolerant of others...aren't you guilt of that same intolerance??
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Man, this is bizarre. Religion is meant to teach people about love and unity. Religion should give people the necessary tools to be spiritually happy and work towards a better civilization. Agreeable? If it's not providing this, then things need to be seriously reconsidered.

For the record, I respect all religous, non-religous and athiest people if they just show respect for one another. But if they don't, I don't go hating or wishing death upon them - I simply hope that they come to a better understanding to not belittle other peoples beliefs in the future.

This debate will go on for hundreds of years to come. We gotta learn to live with all the different views and use it to form a better society. But this just won't work (re: OP), and it's quite saddening to see something like it being put in place.

edit: haha looks like this sub-forum is full of discussions like this... I just wandered in thanks to procrastination.

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IPhone app won't let me edit...but your last paragraph is interesting for its irony...you advocate for violence against people that are intolerant of others...aren't you guilt of that same intolerance??
You're guilty of not being able to read; the entire sentence was a quote that he agreed with. The 2nd half of the sentence (after the comma) wasn't me advocating anything.
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Yes, it's people like e90soflo, not religion, that declares who's not moral, and needs to be exterminated.
Who or what do you want exterminated?
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Do you understand now, or do I need to draw a fishbone chart?
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It's people like e90soflo declaring who should be exterminated for being immoral.
Is this more clear?
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Is this more clear?
yes...that's my point...you're advocating the same violence that you abhor
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yes...that's my point...you're advocating the same violence that you abhor
Dude, how many ways can I put this? I'm not advocating anything, I simply reiterated the quote that e90 defended. The thing you keep saying I'm "advocating" is just part of the quote. They want to exterminate people, it's their quote. You're just f'in with me, right?
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Dude, how many ways can I put this? I'm not advocating anything, I simply reiterated the quote that e90 defended. The thing you keep saying I'm "advocating" is just part of the quote. They want to exterminate people, it's their quote. You're just f'in with me, right?
S&C: I don't get your politics much at all, but I'm sure you're entertaining to hang with whilst enjoying a fine 18 y.o. single malt and a cigar!

But the Nuge would be too for that matter!
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Dude, how many ways can I put this? I'm not advocating anything, I simply reiterated the quote that e90 defended. The thing you keep saying I'm "advocating" is just part of the quote. They want to exterminate people, it's their quote. You're just f'in with me, right?
so do you want E90flo dead or not???...I think that you do from my reading of your posts....
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People have been taking religion and using it for their own purposes, purposes that are 180 degrees opposite of what was intended, for thousands of years. It will continue. There are so many hypocritical people walking this earth that are racist but think they are good because they go to Church on Sunday, for example.
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Jihad, in Islam, (contrary to what you hear in the US media) is when you defend your own country/people
For example, I'm Egyptian, if an israeli attacks my country, and I die defending my country, Thats jihad.
If I'm a retarded Muslim, being told to come and blow myself up in the planes that hit the world trade center, that's not jihad
That's murder, and suicide.
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so do you want E90flo dead or not???...I think that you do from my reading of your posts....
You're not understanding.

He's saying e90soflo was the one advocating extermination, therefore e90soflo is the one who is really immoral. That's what he is saying.
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You're not understanding.

He's saying e90soflo was the one advocating extermination, therefore e90soflo is the one who is really immoral. That's what he is saying.
You know ideliver is just having fun with me, right? He wants to see how many times he can get me to repeat my explanation. And now you're joining in, I see. For anyone now confused, it was a facebook poster who called for the extermination of immoral liberals, and e90 defended the post.
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You know ideliver is just having fun with me, right? He wants to see how many times he can get me to repeat my explanation. And now you're joining in, I see. For anyone now confused, it was a facebook poster who called for the extermination of immoral liberals, and e90 defended the post.
You must be referring to some other post, because I don't see that here. Sorry, I try to stay out of most of these threads so I don't recall every bit of info posted. But saying that someone is implying someone else should be dead is pretty serious, and even posting that (which is not what you said at all), is stupid. How he took that so far out of context I don't know...

I'm just stating that you're not saying e90 should be killed, which is what ideliver somehow thinks you feel.
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You know ideliver is just having fun with me, right? He wants to see how many times he can get me to repeat my explanation. And now you're joining in, I see. For anyone now confused, it was a facebook poster who called for the extermination of immoral liberals, and e90 defended the post.


so do you want E90 exterminated....
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You must be referring to some other post, because I don't see that here. Sorry, I try to stay out of most of these threads so I don't recall every bit of info posted.
See posts #2 and #3 in this thread.
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See posts #2 and #3 in this thread.
I see a red x for the pic, must be the network blocking it here at work. I'll have to check it when I get home.
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I see a red x for the pic, must be the network blocking it here at work. I'll have to check it when I get home.
I transcribed it in post #10.
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