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      11-19-2009, 12:17 PM   #67
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@Footie: Fair enough, but keep in mind that in snow theoretically an AWD car can reach higher speeds than 2wd in the same amount of time/distance which means approaching bends a little earlier and faster than the 2wd car.

I have some experience in the snow with my S3 a few years ago and many times I thought: Wow, superb traction, wow I won't make it to brake for that bend. Almost.

It also off course depends on the kind of tyres you use in snowy conditions.
I prefer a rwd on wintertyres to a Quattro on summertyres. Been there done that. No discussion needed thank you.


Why for example a Lotus Exige driver has to explain to a AWD driver on a trackday why his car can go through a particular bend faster than a Quattro/EVO/STi whatever is another story.
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Anyway, en Espaņa, en el circuito de Jarama un S4 3.0T drifteando. Muchas gracias.

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      11-19-2009, 01:06 PM   #69
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@Footie: Fair enough, but keep in mind that in snow theoretically an AWD car can reach higher speeds than 2wd in the same amount of time/distance which means approaching bends a little earlier and faster than the 2wd car.

I have some experience in the snow with my S3 a few years ago and many times I thought: Wow, superb traction, wow I won't make it to brake for that bend. Almost.
Completely right here Robin, AWD's effect is much greater in acceleration than slowing down and thus needs experience to drive safely in the snow, the inexperienced usually learn very quickly due to a close call or suffer an accident.

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It also off course depends on the kind of tyres you use in snowy conditions.
I prefer a rwd on wintertyres to a Quattro on summertyres. Been there done that. No discussion needed thank you.


Why for example a Lotus Exige driver has to explain to a AWD driver on a trackday why his car can go through a particular bend faster than a Quattro/EVO/STi whatever is another story.
There is no argument from me here, summer tyres will always be worse regardless of the number of driven wheels. But equally an AWD car will be far superior than a RWD car if both have winter tyres.

The Lotus argument is something entirely difference and has nothing to do with the drivetrain.
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@Footie, disfrutastes del video de Audi S4 @ Jarama?

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have you seen the movie Analyze this? when DR.sobel says you know mr vitty i think you are your friend! LOL of course the next gen 335i will be better thats why it a competition.
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seriously, are you saying you don't understand what he said?

I'd question your intellectual if you don't.
You mean intellect, right?
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Bro, it's not even worth it. 3/4 of the people on these boards are hard headed 16 year olds.
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