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      12-09-2011, 04:08 PM   #1
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Being overweight/fat in Japan is "illegal"

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Imagine this in the States...
solution to our national debt?

so if you are under-weight you get a tax credit and/or refund?



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tax credits/refund only redeemable at McDonalds, KFC, BurgerKing, etc.
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      12-09-2011, 04:31 PM   #6
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ahhhh globalization.
lol...Everything was fine until McDonalds started forcing their food down our throats! I mean, I would go there, and buy it myself, but it's their fault! The gov't needs to do something about this!
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lol...Everything was fine until McDonalds started forcing their food down our throats! I mean, I would go there, and buy it myself, but it's their fault! The gov't needs to do something about this!

You took me way to seriously. But yeah, it's like saying guns kill people or pencils fuck up your writing.. The human element is the factor that is flawed in most instances.
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lol...Everything was fine until McDonalds started forcing their food down our throats! I mean, I would go there, and buy it myself, but it's their fault! The gov't needs to do something about this!
Help me help myself!
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It's not illegal in the Japanese example, but frowned upon because a company may face fines if its workforce is out of shape. Some friends and I have discussed this before. If you maintain a healthy weight and exercise regularly, you should be rewarded with cheaper health insurance. If you are overweight and choose not to exercise, your health is at a higher risk and therefore should be reflected in your health insurance. The same principle can be applied to those who choose to smoke.
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well if there's a fine...then it's illegal brah
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well if there's a fine...then it's illegal brah
There is a fine yes, but it is being imposed on employers not the individuals. It's not like the police are rounding up the fatties and tossing them in jail. Who knows, maybe they'll start ticketing individuals until they are within their regulation weight.
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It's not illegal in the Japanese example, but frowned upon because a company may face fines if its workforce is out of shape. Some friends and I have discussed this before. If you maintain a healthy weight and exercise regularly, you should be rewarded with cheaper health insurance. If you are overweight and choose not to exercise, your health is at a higher risk and therefore should be reflected in your health insurance. The same principle can be applied to those who choose to smoke.
Doesn't individual health insurance already account for it by asking for your weight? I know individual life insurance does.
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There is a fine yes, but it is being imposed on employers not the individuals. It's not like the police are rounding up the fatties and tossing them in jail. Who knows, maybe they'll start ticketing individuals until they are within their regulation weight.
Even if you could get the support of everyone in principle, the administration of a fine on an individual basis would be extremely difficult to implement. Who defines "overweight"? And should it be different based on race (which under current law would be illegal)? Who defines sufficient dieting and exercise efforts? Should there be a medical exemption (for those that were genetically predisposed or who were, say, subject to extended bed rest due to a separate medical condition)? And who proves up that medical exemption? And who should pay the medical bill required to prove up that medical exemption? Just some of the issues off the top of my head that would need to be addressed ...
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Even if you could get the support of everyone in principle, the administration of a fine on an individual basis would be extremely difficult to implement. Who defines "overweight"? And should it be different based on race (which under current law would be illegal)? Who defines sufficient dieting and exercise efforts? Should there be a medical exemption (for those that were genetically predisposed or who were, say, subject to extended bed rest due to a separate medical condition)? And who proves up that medical exemption? And who should pay the medical bill required to prove up that medical exemption? Just some of the issues off the top of my head that would need to be addressed ...
No doubt, it wouldn't be an easy issue to tackle on many fronts. Seeing as how more and more Americans are getting heavier and out of shape though, something like this could motivate people. Defining what is considered 'in shape' and what is 'overweight' for such a plan would not be easy like you said.
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well if there's a fine...then it's illegal brah
Maybe illegal in the US, but not in Japan. Different countries have different laws..."brah"
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Maybe legal in the US, but not in Japan. Different countries have different laws...brah
what the heck are you talking about? i was simply disagreeing with Jason about whether being a fatty in Japan is illegal.

Look if Japan fines a person/company for a worker being fat...then that means there's a law that prohibits fatties...thus making it illegal by definition. Just because there isn't a jail sentence doesn't mean it's not illegal.
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There is a fine yes, but it is being imposed on employers not the individuals. It's not like the police are rounding up the fatties and tossing them in jail. Who knows, maybe they'll start ticketing individuals until they are within their regulation weight.
As vince would say... 'she's not in my weight class'
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lived in Japan the last 2 years and it was rare to see a fat Japanese person. the guys are especially skinny. my arms could rarely fit in any of their clothes and i feel i have an average build.
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