[Titanium3er]

I think the biggest deterrent is cost. It's certainly not a large sum of money, but as already mentioned most of the benefits of BMWCCA can be found elsewhere. In concert with a busy schedule, annual dues mean you could be paying for something you'll never have a chance to take advantage of.

If the annual fee were replaced by special event fees this wouldn't be an issue. I have gone to enthusiast meet ups that are free for regular gatherings. These do better with the younger crowd.

As for events, my interests are group rides, track days, group mod projects...

[techwhiz]

Here you go:

1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently?
Yes

2. What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)?
SF Bay Area Chapter

3. If you are not a member, what was the reason for not joining?
N/A

4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter?
Multiple.

5. What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area?
They already do them.
Driving events.
Track days.
Autocross.
Monthly meetings.
Corral at Laguna Seca and Sonoma Raceway.


6. What activities would you like to see on a national level?
Hmmmmm....

7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support?
Driver education.
Defensive driving.
Hmmm....

8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects?
Discounts from vendors would be nice.
My local dealership typically discounts parts and labor for CCA members.

9. Open comment / suggestion.

[kscarrol]

1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently? Yes, since 2003

2. What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)? Bayou Chapter, New Orleans

3. If you are not a member, what was the reason for not joining? N/A

4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter? Yes as well as a two-day M school sponsored by BMWCCA

5. What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area? More car meets. Have a good slate of friendly drives and tech sessions but could use more meets.

6. What activities would you like to see on a national level? Octoberfest usually too far away, a regular regional gathering of some sort...

7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support? Continued driver education, teen driving school etc.

8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects? Some sort of registry for parts suppliers would be helpful

9. Open comment / suggestion.

[davidwarren]

1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently? Yes

2. What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)? Bluegrass Bimmers

3. If you are not a member, what was the reason for not joining?

4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter? Yes

5. What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area? Group drives

6. What activities would you like to see on a national level? Meets

7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support? ?

8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects? like the classified ads in the back of rondel?

9. Open comment / suggestion.
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[pillpusher84]

1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently? Yes

2. What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)? New Jersey

3. If you are not a member, what was the reason for not joining? N/A

4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter? Yes

5. What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area? Happy with all activities currently offered.

6. What activities would you like to see on a national level? ///M Days at PDC at a more significant discount

7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support? Additional driving events.

8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects? That would be a nice added benefit.

9. Open comment / suggestion.[/QUOTE] Happy with my membership.

[m3dragon]

Originally Posted by mjposner

To those who are not members here are some reasons to join:

Please keep the club recruitment off these post. This is not the time and place. I would request you edit your post to remove this please.

Bad taste.

[M3ZCP6MT]

Originally Posted by m3dragon

1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently?

Yes

2. What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)?

Los Angeles

3. If you are not a member, what was the reason for not joining?

N/A

4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter?

Track events

5. What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area?

Have a chapter in Orange County to start. A few cruises throughout the year

6. What activities would you like to see on a national level?

M Driving School as a group for a much discounted rate

7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support?

For BMWCCA to promote our local car groups in Roundel and BMWCCA Website, perhaps a section dedicates to listings of local BMW related car groups. Ex.We have an exclusive car group in Orange County, OC///M Group and national exposure would be good

8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects?


9. Open comment / suggestion.

It seems that BMWCCA core members are older in age (50 +) and a lot of them drive older BMWs, nothing wrong with that as I myself like a lot of the Classic BMWs. And events BMWCCA put out are more gear toward that age group. But to attract younger crowds, we have to host events that are of their interests, like track/driving events, clinics etc.

[imported_mega]

1. not anymore

2. no idea, just moved to sanford north carolina

3. did not get anything out of it

4. nope

5. autocross

6. no idea

7. autocross/drivers schools/get us on bmw test track/tours of factory

8. not sure what this means

[seank]

1. No
2. Golden gate I believe.
3. Why. Don't like clubs. I just want to race and hang out with people without paying a fee.
4. No. Well, at a race which made me addicted after an instructor taking me out. So, I joined NASA.
5. Not sure. More races locally.
6. Same as above.
7. Not sure
8. No.
9. I don't see value in what I know the benefits are....at least for my needs.

[Longbow64]

An annual membership should come with the purchase of a BMW. I kept my Sirius radio subscription when the trial period ran out. I had no intentions on ever getting sat radio prior.

[dbs600]

With great forums like this one and internet-based social media, I don't see car club memberships remaining relevant for much longer; what's keeping them alive for the time being are baby boomers...

[rabman5]

1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently? Yes. 14 years

2. What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)? Motor City

3. If you are not a member, what was the reason for not joining?

4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter? Yes, many

5. What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area? I like the drives. Also I've attended several track events at various tracks. I wish I had the time to do more that they offer. I've only been able to do one autoX event.



6. What activities would you like to see on a national level? I've been to O-Fest once. Had a great time. Really. The events, track days, autoX and entire event was very well done.

7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support? As far as i'm concerned they're fine as is. I've used to rebate program 8 times, they have track days and several events in my area.

8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects? They already help with discounts, but I'm also not really a project guy, I think the club is good for networking and often you can meet people

9. Open comment / suggestion. I know they have a reputation for being older but I joined in my early 30s and know many guys my age and younger who are active. As with any group, you only get what you give. There's nothing stopping younger members from organizing events for the club. My suggestion for those looking for more from their club is to get involved and make it happen. Just my two cents, and I'm in no way in a leadership position with BMWCCA.

I think the CCA serves it's purpose just fine. I don't need it to be like MFEST, MFEST is MFEST. CCA is CCA.

[aus]

All you people who quit, did you ever do the rebate program?
I know thow forums has a LOT more second owners now, but early on, it was all new owners. That's $500 for one car. I've done the rebate for 3 cars now, and will use it again in 1-2 years. THAT alone is worth the membership.

Roundel has some fresh blood in it, but I can't say they capture my attention all the time. It's still a cool magazine. They may want to team up with some tuners to follow some of their project cars. Imagine detailed write ups with pics of IND, EAS, AutoTalent or VAC builds? Street or show cars, track cars. Go do an article on the crazy GMG build. CCA tends to have a reputation for mainly focusing on older BMW's. The articles could be done over 3-4 months. People are going to the forums more, so why not team up with tuners big on the forums.

The track days are great, but CCA REALLY needs to get coverage for cars like convertibles, or lax the rules for instructor/student ratios. A group guys generally don't need an instructor (unless they're put there due to not enough instructors for the B group- yes it happens). The other options out there are literally half the price in Cali. Obvously, they don't offer anything close in terms of instructions, but people only care about how much an event costs.

I'm a lifer with the CCA, so I'm a big fan. I still think the rebates and track evens are the main points for the club. It would be great to have more track events, but they're pretty complicate with all the people involved. I can see why they only happen a few times a year.
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[8_is_enough]

I joined because I like Roundel. Shame on me :/

[pkimM3r]

1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently?
Yes

2. What is your regional club (if you dont know just say dont know)?
La chapter

3. If you are not a member, what was the reason for not joining?
Na

4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter?
Hpde/autox

5. What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area?
More hpde.....car control clinic as in skidpad, slide recovery, etc....not the teenage tirerack one

6. What activities would you like to see on a national level?
Na

7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support?

8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects?
Yes would be great to team up with various vendors on discounts

9. Open comment / suggestion.

[The HACK]

1. Yes. Lifetime member.

2. Los Angeles.

3. I'll tell you why I joined. I bought a Z3 1.9L, then about 2 weeks after buying the Z3 realized there's a $500 rebate on the car if I was a CCA member. Signed up the next day. The lifetime membership cost me $350, plus an associate (my wife), and have saved me over $3,500 in purchase rebates in the last 15 years.

4. I've attended the local chapter's board meetings (that's how I got roped into serving on the board, by the way), local meet and greets, chapter organized plant tours, clean car contests, holiday parties, auto crosses, and HPDEs across the region held by other chapters as well.

5. If it were up to me? Given our golden location as the capital of the car culture, more meet and greet with local BMW performance shops, tuners, and aftermarket manufacturers. As well as VPC tours (Port Hueneme, BMW's VPC for all West Coast distribution, as well as BMW's national parts warehouse, are located within our domain)

6. I would like to see more of what National did with Octoberfest's driving school. A week long school held at historical tracks all around the country, but separate from O'Fest. Get the surrounding area/region's chapter involved in collaborating and offer up the opportunity for more members to get involved in the marquee program the club offers, which is the driving schools.

7. Tire Rack Street Survival. Oh wait...

8. If BMW CCA can manage to coerce the advertisers in Roundel to offer a modest discount, like 10-15% on parts, for CCA members, that would go a very long way to entice some people to sign up just for the discount alone. Take Dinan for example. A 10% discount on Dinan exhaust or stage II suspension for an F-30 would be more than an annual due.

[Radiation Joe]

1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently? Yes.

2. What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)? Used to be Golden Gate, now Delaware Valley Chapter.

3. If you are not a member, what was the reason for not joining?

4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter? Track days.

5. What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area? Day trips to interesting places.

6. What activities would you like to see on a national level? Octoberfest.

7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support? Street Survival, Club Racing, Heritage

8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects? Yes.

9. Open comment / suggestion.

[m3dragon]

I realized the way I worded question 8 was not thorough enough.

The question is would you like help with getting things for projects such a European parts or harder to find parts from BMW?

This is not for BMWCCA to become a parts vendor but to help select vendors acquire the parts for members.

[m3dragon]

I realized the way I worded question 8 was not thorough enough.

The question is would you like help with getting things for projects such a European parts or harder to find parts from BMW?

This is not for BMWCCA to become a parts vendor but to help select vendors acquire the parts for members.

[m3dragon]

I realized the way I worded question 8 was not thorough enough.

The question is would you like help with getting things for projects such a European parts or harder to find parts from BMW?

This is not for BMWCCA to become a parts vendor but to help select vendors acquire the parts for members.

[itdnwiwbp]

1. Yes.

2. San Diego.

3. N/A

4. Yes.

5. SD has a lot of activities and they do a great job. More casual social get togethers and drives would be nice, though.

6. Pretty satisfied with national level events.

7. Continued support with the teen driver programs of course. Pretty satisfied here too.

8. Never really thought of this but for people with old and rare cars I guess it could be a great resource. Edit: The revision sounds very helpful too! All for it!

[mjposner]

The question is would you like help with getting things for projects such a European parts or harder to find parts from BMW? yes, especially euro only parts.