F30POST
F30POST
2012-2015 BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum (F30 / F32) | F30POST > BIMMERPOST Universal Forums > Off-Topic Discussions Board > Health, Fitness, Martial Arts, and Nutrition > maximize growth potential for a 15 yr old
proTUNING Freaks
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      08-06-2012, 10:16 AM   #1
kevinbahnz
Captain
kevinbahnz's Avatar
152
Rep
709
Posts

Drives: 2008 335xi sedan
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Ma-NC

iTrader: (1)

maximize growth potential for a 15 yr old

any advice or proven science that will help my 15 year old son grow taller. I am 5'4"(5'5" on my good days)148lbs his mom is about the same height and he is about 5'6" 158lbs. He's pretty lazy sleeps late wakes up late afternoon but when he goes to the YMCA he stays there for a good 3-4 hours playing basketball and lifting weights(no heavy lifting and no squats). Any tips on food and supplements that promote growth that are safe for his age.? Can I spike his food with HGH , Just kidding
__________________
<img src=http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z164/kevinbahnz/08-23-2008030.jpg border=0 alt= />
Appreciate 0
      08-06-2012, 10:23 AM   #2
BrokenVert
Resident Kerbalnaut
BrokenVert's Avatar
United_States
477
Rep
10,703
Posts

Drives: Topless Brute/Hybrid Boogaloo
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Fahrvergnügen/NY

iTrader: (0)

Proper nutrition and a healthy dose of vitamins.

He cant grow if he doesnt have the chemicals and nutrients that his body needs.

and if that doesnt work theres always...

__________________

Appreciate 0
      08-06-2012, 11:01 AM   #3
jwickers
Second Lieutenant
5
Rep
243
Posts

Drives: 328i GT
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Shanghai - China

iTrader: (0)

I was confused for a moment because of the green giant pic, pictured your family as green giants who have to grow taller as they compete for sunlight i guess ...
Appreciate 0
      08-06-2012, 02:02 PM   #4
RambleJ
Colonel
RambleJ's Avatar
No_Country
57
Rep
2,014
Posts

Drives: F10 535i M-sport
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Back in teh so cal

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by kevinbahnz View Post
any advice or proven science that will help my 15 year old son grow taller. I am 5'4"(5'5" on my good days)148lbs his mom is about the same height and he is about 5'6" 158lbs. He's pretty lazy sleeps late wakes up late afternoon but when he goes to the YMCA he stays there for a good 3-4 hours playing basketball and lifting weights(no heavy lifting and no squats). Any tips on food and supplements that promote growth that are safe for his age.? Can I spike his food with HGH , Just kidding
Genetics play a huge role in this and it sounds like he got the short end of the stick
I would consult a doc about this. I know you said it jokingly, but if administered correctly and early enough HGH can actually help a child grow past their pre detemined genetic height.
Appreciate 0
      08-06-2012, 02:57 PM   #5
sdshah
Banned
United_States
849
Rep
1,386
Posts

Drives: F85 | Panamera GTS
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: USA

iTrader: (2)

vitamin D milk can also help alot with growth especially during the growing period.
Appreciate 0
      08-06-2012, 03:00 PM   #6
kevinbahnz
Captain
kevinbahnz's Avatar
152
Rep
709
Posts

Drives: 2008 335xi sedan
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Ma-NC

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by RambleJ View Post
Genetics play a huge role in this and it sounds like he got the short end of the stick
I would consult a doc about this. I know you said it jokingly, but if administered correctly and early enough HGH can actually help a child grow past their pre detemined genetic height.
that hurts...lolz
__________________
<img src=http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z164/kevinbahnz/08-23-2008030.jpg border=0 alt= />
Appreciate 0
      08-06-2012, 03:11 PM   #7
BrokenVert
Resident Kerbalnaut
BrokenVert's Avatar
United_States
477
Rep
10,703
Posts

Drives: Topless Brute/Hybrid Boogaloo
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Fahrvergnügen/NY

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by kevinbahnz View Post
that hurts...lolz




Im 5' 9" with a wide build - every male in my family on both my mother's and father's sides is between 5'7" and 5'10" with a wide build.

I had no hope in not being that.
__________________

Appreciate 0
      08-09-2012, 01:38 PM   #8
hasta la pasta 27
Captain
hasta la pasta 27's Avatar
United_States
41
Rep
677
Posts

Drives: 2014 Chevy Silverado
Join Date: May 2012
Location: MIAMI, FL

iTrader: (1)

Short answer.....No. Unless you manipulate the genetic structure. I am 5'5", more or less, 182lbs as lunch time. My mom is 4'11" and my dad is 5'6" so i fell right there. Unfortunately, the only way would be to fill him up with proper nutrients, proteins, and milk. Proper nutrition is crucial for growth. 5'6" 158 is not that bad but if you say he is lazy then is mostly body fat. Right now, @ 15 years old, if he begins working out then he will tone up and bulk really quick because his testosterone is kicking like bull. Maybe try taking to him to the gym with you? He is able to do weight lifting, it does not necessarily stunt your growth. As far as anything leg related, less weight and higher reps would be better to avoid injury at his age. As far as anything else goes, he is good to go but needs proper training as far as fundamentals go. My dad never pushed me....i lied, he did push me away and was never there but i have been lifting since 16.

Now as far as sleeping and laziness; there are many reasons for this but the most relevant is the fact that his body says "ok, sleep all day and play games all night!". Your body has an internal clock that needs to be reset. He needs to get into the habit of waking up early and STAYING up. In order to stay up, he needs a good breakfast. For the long run, cereal is terrible to have for breakfast....its a sugar rush followed by a crash. Make him 2 pieces of toast with eggs and milk along with some kids multivitamins (maybe chewables but not the mens vitacrave because they are hard as FU*K to chew). You get proteins, carbs, and plenty of vitamins.

P.S. "SOME" studies have shown soy protein to causes estrogenic affects so watch that.

Put it this way, imagine the second you start your car, you put it in drive and start going.....It causes premature wear...well same thing goes for the body, unless you get you body started properly and prep it then it will not last long.

Someone correct me if i made a mistake somewhere

Last edited by hasta la pasta 27; 08-09-2012 at 02:23 PM..
Appreciate 0
      08-09-2012, 02:16 PM   #9
will-w
'Captain Slow'
United Kingdom
6
Rep
164
Posts

Drives: F20 118d M Sport
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Kent, UK

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2012 F20 M Sport  [10.00]
It can't all be down to genetics, my mum is 5'5 (size 5 shoes), my dad was 5'9 (size 9 shoes) and yet I'm 6'1 and have size 12/13 shoes...

And no I'm not the milkman's

The only thing different is at the age of 11 we realised I was lactose and gluten intolerant so I cut all dairy out of my diet, I replaced this with soya alternatives until I was 23.
Appreciate 0
      08-09-2012, 02:22 PM   #10
hasta la pasta 27
Captain
hasta la pasta 27's Avatar
United_States
41
Rep
677
Posts

Drives: 2014 Chevy Silverado
Join Date: May 2012
Location: MIAMI, FL

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by will-w View Post
It can't all be down to genetics, my mum is 5'5 (size 5 shoes), my dad was 5'9 (size 9 shoes) and yet I'm 6'1 and have size 12/13 shoes...

And no I'm not the milkman's

The only thing different is at the age of 11 we realized I was lactose and gluten intolerant so I cut all dairy out of my diet, I replaced this with soya alternatives until I was 23.
someone in your family must have been taller. Dont get me wrong, i have some friends that when they stand next to they're family, they look like the landlord for the keebler elves
Appreciate 0
      08-09-2012, 02:47 PM   #11
will-w
'Captain Slow'
United Kingdom
6
Rep
164
Posts

Drives: F20 118d M Sport
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Kent, UK

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2012 F20 M Sport  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericruiz911 View Post
someone in your family must have been taller. Dont get me wrong, i have some friends that when they stand next to they're family, they look like the landlord for the keebler elves
Nope, they've all been short to average on both sides, I'm also very broad where as my family are all quite thin.

I don't know a lot about my father's great grandparents and older in the lines on that side, all I know is his dad's family were German and his mum's family were Italian/Maltese.. Guess it could have come from them
Appreciate 0
      08-09-2012, 03:10 PM   #12
Draven
C7Z - Darkside
Draven's Avatar
50
Rep
226
Posts

Drives: '18 Z06 M7
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Merrimack, NH

iTrader: (0)

Genetics plays most of the role in height. You can only adversely affect it with either too much working out too early, or not supporting it with nutrition. His body will have a growth period, and if he's supplied with all the proper nutrients to promote that growth, he'll grow. If he isn't, he won't.

My father is 6'3", my mother is 4'11", I'm 5'3". Most of my features come from my father, with a select few from my mother. I spent my youth playing 4 leagues of soccer, paintball, and otherwise running and biking all the time. I didn't eat right at all (father wasn't in the picture, and my mother's idea of feeding me was apples and pop tarts). Needless to say, I didn't have the right kinds of foods. Doctor said for my build, I should be at least 5'8", but I likely stunted my growth with being too active and not eating right. Oh well.

Keep him well fed with good nutritious balance and you'll be good.
Appreciate 0
      08-09-2012, 04:26 PM   #13
kevinbahnz
Captain
kevinbahnz's Avatar
152
Rep
709
Posts

Drives: 2008 335xi sedan
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Ma-NC

iTrader: (1)

thanks for the responses everyone, Any specific foods that will boost his growth? will any multi vitamin work just fine or does he need to bulk up on vitamin D. But what I really want to know more about is HGH if anyone is on it and what do they think of it.
__________________
<img src=http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z164/kevinbahnz/08-23-2008030.jpg border=0 alt= />
Appreciate 0
      08-09-2012, 10:05 PM   #14
Draven
C7Z - Darkside
Draven's Avatar
50
Rep
226
Posts

Drives: '18 Z06 M7
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Merrimack, NH

iTrader: (0)

I know you want the best for your kid, but I can already tell you have a bigger issue with your height than he does just based on your "I'm 5'4, 5'5" on a good day".

HGH is unlikely to make him taller, it's going to promote muscle development that will require his body to intake even more nutrients to support the added muscle. Couple that with potential liver issues with long term HGH use, and you're on the road to early liver failure.

Feed him good nutritious food, give him a complete daily multivitamin for someone his age, and let nature take over the rest. Don't pump him full of steroids and other enhancers because you're insecure about your height.
Appreciate 0
      08-28-2012, 11:30 PM   #15
loveskiing
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
966
Rep
1,612
Posts

Drives: 2011 M3 E90
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Portland, OR

iTrader: (0)

I would ditto most of the comments that you received from the other posters.
In my humble opinion HGH is to avoided at all costs.
Getting proper rest, eating mostly FRESH local organic foods, lots of exercise and avoiding the usual "nons" (drugs, alcohol etc.) would help him more than anything.
Most teens don't need multi vitamins if they are getting them from their nutritious diet.
Finally, if you are really concerned, consult your son's health care provider for additional recommendations.
Appreciate 0
      08-29-2012, 12:54 AM   #16
fercho
Lieutenant
fercho's Avatar
United_States
29
Rep
518
Posts

Drives: 2005 z4 2.5
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: San Diego, CA

iTrader: (2)

by eating right and lots of exercise he will grow right. i am 5'6 my father is 5'6 my mom is 5'5 my olders sister is 5'0 and my youngest brother is 6'3 he is very active and always eating , so I think genetics don't always apply.
__________________
2005 z4 2.5i/// Aero front bumper, m rear bumper,08 rear lights, custom quad exhaust, matte black front grill, OEM alarm, llumar security film,m wheels, HID lights, LED interior and trunk light,Ipod integration, stubby antenna,tein s-tech springsx
Appreciate 0
      08-29-2012, 08:16 AM   #17
RambleJ
Colonel
RambleJ's Avatar
No_Country
57
Rep
2,014
Posts

Drives: F10 535i M-sport
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Back in teh so cal

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by fercho View Post
by eating right and lots of exercise he will grow right. i am 5'6 my father is 5'6 my mom is 5'5 my olders sister is 5'0 and my youngest brother is 6'3 he is very active and always eating , so I think genetics don't always apply.
So your brother is 9 inches taller than his father? If your grandparents are short too, he is the son of the mailman or he has overactive putuitary glands, feeding his body above the normal amount of growth hormone.

And to all the people spouting misinformation about HGH, if done properly and under physician supervision there are little to no risks. And HGH has little to no liver toxicity. So again, misinformation. Body builders who overdose HGH at 10+iu's a day get organ growth. But for a childs for overall growth a doc will probably prescribe .5 ius every other day if that and allow the child to surpass his genetic path.
Appreciate 0
      08-29-2012, 09:58 AM   #18
dr.mba
Captain
dr.mba's Avatar
Canada
274
Rep
722
Posts

Drives: 2017 F. Grey M3 ZCP
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Canada

iTrader: (0)

Kevinbahnz,
I just read this thread now. I sort of agree with some of the things that were said in this thread so far. I am a physician so what I will be saying is probably some of the closest you will get to the truth. HGH will make any human being grow given the growth plates have not fused yet. What that means is that you need to go visit a pediatrician and ask about this issue and see if they are willing to xray your sons wrists and ankles. If the growth plates have fused the only thing HGH is going to do is make your boy grow heavier in weight and bulk up in muscle if he is exercising. Genetics play the majority of our predetermined height but not 100%. Environmentally a high protein diet promotes growth as well as long nights (by stimulating the pituitary gland to secrete HGH) such as in the arctics. The short of this is to go consult with a pediatric endocrinologist as they would be the right person to talk to. My humble 2 cents. I hope this is helpful.

MBA
Appreciate 0
      09-02-2012, 06:11 PM   #19
RambleJ
Colonel
RambleJ's Avatar
No_Country
57
Rep
2,014
Posts

Drives: F10 535i M-sport
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Back in teh so cal

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by dr.mba View Post
Kevinbahnz,
I just read this thread now. I sort of agree with some of the things that were said in this thread so far. I am a physician so what I will be saying is probably some of the closest you will get to the truth. HGH will make any human being grow given the growth plates have not fused yet. What that means is that you need to go visit a pediatrician and ask about this issue and see if they are willing to xray your sons wrists and ankles. If the growth plates have fused the only thing HGH is going to do is make your boy grow heavier in weight and bulk up in muscle if he is exercising. Genetics play the majority of our predetermined height but not 100%. Environmentally a high protein diet promotes growth as well as long nights (by stimulating the pituitary gland to secrete HGH) such as in the arctics. The short of this is to go consult with a pediatric endocrinologist as they would be the right person to talk to. My humble 2 cents. I hope this is helpful.

MBA

Finally another educated individual on the subject!
Appreciate 0
      10-05-2012, 09:58 AM   #20
01'325rip
Captain
85
Rep
774
Posts

Drives: 08' E93 M3
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: the sky

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by kevinbahnz View Post
thanks for the responses everyone, Any specific foods that will boost his growth? will any multi vitamin work just fine or does he need to bulk up on vitamin D. But what I really want to know more about is HGH if anyone is on it and what do they think of it.
I would not recommend it.

Especially if he does not need it. Just my opinion though.

Last edited by 01'325rip; 10-05-2012 at 10:04 AM..
Appreciate 0
      10-09-2012, 01:48 AM   #21
Exite
Private
Exite's Avatar
4
Rep
64
Posts

Drives: 08 135i
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: socal

iTrader: (0)

Honestly man just make sure he eats healthy and is active. I'm 6'3" and I didn't get that way doing anything special. It is just how I was supposed to be. Just keep away from fast food and stay away from heavily processed foods and he will grow up like his genes say he will.

If he has a health condition then talk to a doctor. If a doctor gives him hgh it will probably be to make him grow like he should have not to grow larger than he was supposed to.

I'm not a M.D. or anything so I could be pulling this from my behind but I don't see hgh as being good for a young growing boy. Does hgh cause the heart and other supporting organs to grow larger as well; I have no idea. Say he does grow 3" more than he would have otherwise can his heart now take it? Or will he always be under the threat of heart disease like those basketball players with growths on their pituitary glands? Just some stuff to think about.

Last edited by Exite; 10-09-2012 at 01:54 AM..
Appreciate 0
      10-09-2012, 11:24 AM   #22
Twisted Six
CarbonFiber Engineer @ ZeroMassMotorsports
Twisted Six's Avatar
United_States
40
Rep
1,481
Posts

Drives: Z4si-coupe
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: -Laguna Beach Ca.

iTrader: (6)

My brother and I may be a glitch in the algorithm of life here, but he is 6'6" and I am 6'1". Our parents are 5'7" & 5'5".

My folks made us work everyday hard and eat at specific times with rarely EVER seeing sweets aside from fruits. Read no candy or ice-cream.

We were swimmers,martial artists,hikers and the like.I raced BMX, he road raced 10 speeds.

We arose each morning at 5am and went to bed at 9pm.Exhausted.Lots of green vegetables etc. No fast foods. We had some lakeside land that we cleared and developed for a cabin during our growth period and were lifting heavy tree trunks and concrete blocks etc.

We are in our early 50's now and stronger than we were in our 20's with no health issues.

My parents are plagued with health issues , probably due to smoking and inactivity.

If genetics do play a role....we dodged that short ranged bullet whether activity played a role or not....who knows ?
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:14 AM.




f30post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST