[youngnastyman]

335i


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[OnlyTruth]

Originally Posted by Bargamon

I assume your in for MT.

Think of the 335 as a modded 328i and its more delicate, as are mosted heavy modded cars.

I was in the same boat and decided on the 328i coupe and not a moment of regret. Im not trying to keep up with a buddy's faster car or other peer pressures.

Years ago I got a new Mercedes E430 which was about 9 grand more than the E320. Same car, same dynamics. The 8cyl never was the issue like the 335 motor is with fuel pump and other problems. What I found was the car burst of speed was really only for recreation purpose and if it was not there I'd really be cool with it. That was my conclusion and deducted that if I take my head out of the specs and just drive the 328 is plenty quickk enough and handles just the same (slightly better with weight loss??) and not have the worry of long term ownership with the turbo.

Thats my take. 335 guys love their cars and it validates them when others follow suit. 328i owners maybe just as guilty. So yeah, I love my car and enjoy it even without its world class 0-60. If you have the need for speed then go 335 and enjoy the guilty pleasure!

I came from 325 E90 to 335. At first that burst of power seemed to be useless indeed only for recreational purposes. 325(328) is buttery smooth which in itself is a benefit, not a jerky 335. However when I got a 328 X-drive coupe loaner I did felt a lack of power. Although appreciated 328 too. My take is if you dont care about money and speed eager then take 335, otherwise 328 is an excellent car as well.

[shockin330i]

Just curious, how old are you op?

[Quasimodem]

Get a 335, but not the "i" model.

[MOTO69JOE]

Get the 335 if you want HPFP problems.

[DaveL]

Hands down 335, no comparison.Much much more cache the 328 is basic entry level not saying it isn't a fine car but just how it is perceived.335 all the way baby...Or just get an M3

[dtc100]

Originally Posted by Legion5

The 335i depreciates significantly less than the 328i based on actual market conditions to the point where they actually cost very nearly the same to own after 3 years once you count the extra options the 335i comes with.

Even though based on the OP's post, he should get a 335i, but your above statement is simply not true. The 335i's are now suffering bad publicity and there are many accounts of people stealing CPO 335i's, but not CPO 328i's.

[thetedderbear]

Beamer, bimmer, I'm new to the BMW game. I was always a Jdm fan but lately my tastes have changed. To be specific, I'm looking for a fast, exciting car. I'll be daily driving it, but I want it to be fun to drive every day. I'm currently in an 03 F150 and that's REALLY boring unless you're offroad. Which I never am. So, excitement, speed(mostly street use, maybe occasional track use), at a reasonable price. I'm looking to spend about $30,000 initially, which kinda puts an M3 out of the running, sadly. After that mods will come as I get the money. I think I'm leaning towards the 335i, I was mostly curious as to any tuning for a 328i, but the first few posts shot that down.
Thanks again!

[bbbradley]

Originally Posted by Legion5

BMWFS values have little or no connection with reality. I've had several sales people agree that this is the case when I asked them about it.

So, BMWFS, the king of leasing (so it seems) uses BS numbers to value all their leases? Car sales people are generally the least reliable, trustworthy, and knowledgeable people on the plant. They are trying to *sell* you something and tell you what you want to hear.

[dtc100]

Originally Posted by bbbradley

So, BMWFS, the king of leasing (so it seems) uses BS numbers to value all their leases?

Not true, but the lease residuals are not the true reflection of the resale either. Banks often subsidize the residuals to push sales. The true resale values are reflected in the prices you get from the auctions.

Car sales people are generally the least reliable, trustworthy, and knowledgeable people on the plant. They are trying to *sell* you something and tell you what you want to hear.

That is true, but the flip side is also true. The old saying, when do you know someone is lying? When his lips are moving. This is true for both the car salespersons and the customers.

[Amclp640]

Go with the 335i you won't regret it I've got 34k miles on mine and so far no problems...dont go with the m3 unless ur a fan of the v8 I personally don't like the new engine of that car but that's just me:/

[okevino]

of course i gonna root for the 335

[Kayani_1]

If you want to make 350hp or so easily without spending a lot of money then you should get the 335i and not the 328i.

[Legion5]

Originally Posted by dtc100

Even though based on the OP's post, he should get a 335i, but your above statement is simply not true. The 335i's are now suffering bad publicity and there are many accounts of people stealing CPO 335i's, but not CPO 328i's.

You're speculating a lot on how car markets work. I looked at actual numbers, denying them is on the same level as saying the moon landings didn't happen, you just can't say it's "simply not true". Furthermore there was a thread earlier on used 328i and 335i prices that practically everyone agreed with finding similar pricing that I did on used 335i's and 328i's so there's no error.

I browse this forum frequently and I have seen nobody post about stealing a CPO'ed 335i. Even so if a bunch of shifty people were able to scam a few sellers with their alarmist claims that doesn't destroy the whole 335i market.

Originally Posted by bbbradley

So, BMWFS, the king of leasing (so it seems) uses BS numbers to value all their leases? Car sales people are generally the least reliable, trustworthy, and knowledgeable people on the plant. They are trying to *sell* you something and tell you what you want to hear.

BMWFS uses conservative heavily estimated numbers based on their previous experiences. The results are exactaly what you'd expect from a conservative estimate based on past experience.

I know two BMW salesmen on a personal level, and they've violated company policy and given me privileged information multiple times for my benefit. I've even taken them to track events. There's no shenanigans involved when they say BMWFS numbers aren't accurate. It's in their honest experience. The conservative estimated past experience based BMWFS numbers are just that and even the sales people agree, not suprising.

Look, I'm a financial analyst. It's my job to figure things like this out all day. I just ran the numbers again with today's used 3 series prices, here is my conclusion: Within my region it costs, based on current average pricing figures, $15 more in depreciation (that's fifteen dollars) over 3 years to own a base 335i coupe compared to a base 328i coupe with the same standard options as a 335i.

You can be confused and disagree with this number, but it's simply the truth.

[2M]

Why don't you do some research. If you want a 350hp N/A engine go get a E46 M3. Thats why there's a M division. You cannot take the lowest 3 series and make it a M3. If you like the E92 but don't want a turbo then go with an E92 M3. Best is 335. juicebox and a few bolt-ons and you are at 400whp.

[sydenfareren]

go for the 335I of course . It is an amasing car to drive

[IancoleTX]

Gray market 316i. Amazing fuel economy bro.

[bbbradley]

Originally Posted by Legion5

Look, I'm a financial analyst. It's my job to figure things like this out all day. I just ran the numbers again with today's used 3 series prices, here is my conclusion: Within my region it costs, based on current average pricing figures, $15 more in depreciation (that's fifteen dollars) over 3 years to own a base 335i coupe compared to a base 328i coupe with the same standard options as a 335i.

I know my way around numbers too, care to share the full extent of your analysis and the assumptions?

Yahoo Autos shows a ~$4k differential for 3 year TCO.

Originally Posted by Legion5

You can be confused and disagree with this number, but it's simply the truth.

And you can be a pompous db, it's simply not needed.

[Projekt_BooGie]

I just bought my first bmw and i had the same thoughts....never drove either one, but knew the power difference would be a deciding factor. I got the 335 and never have regrets. If you are looking for horse power then def go with 335, cruiser and NOTHING else 328.

My thing is if both are in your price range def get the best bang for your buck, 335. I know that there are HFPF problems but the dealer takes care of that for you.

[IancoleTX]

Originally Posted by ACEE

I just bought my first bmw and i had the same thoughts....never drove either one, but knew the power difference would be a deciding factor. I got the 335 and never have regrets. If you are looking for horse power then def go with 335, cruiser and NOTHING else 328.

My thing is if both are in your price range def get the best bang for your buck, 335. I know that there are HFPF problems but the dealer takes care of that for you.

Haha dude you make it sound like the 328i has a one cylinder engine. My 6mt ZSP hits 60 in less than 6, sounds awesome, and is super reliable. If you are looking for a quick, reliable, beautiful car.. the e92 328 is a solid call. Now breakneck speed is a whole other ballgame..

[2M]

Originally Posted by IancoleTX

Haha dude you make it sound like the 328i has a one cylinder engine. My 6mt ZSP hits 60 in less than 6, sounds awesome, and is super reliable. If you are looking for a quick, reliable, beautiful car.. the e92 328 is a solid call. Now breakneck speed is a whole other ballgame..

Same here. 5.75 0-60

[Ajs76]

If you're going to mod the thing anyway, just get the 335i and use the money you would have spent on trying to make the 328 quicker on paying for things that might break.

You'll get like 25% back on mods if you're lucky, so just get the car that's the speed you want right off the bat whether that's a 328, 335, or m3.