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I know you cant burn fat while building muscle but my question is how to prevent your muscle mass while buring fat...
I work out 4 times a week and so far i put on 20lbs along some fat ![]() Right now I am 177lbs and 6 ft with %15 BF right now. I guess, not too bad at all. I need to gain another 3lbs and then start to burn fat to a level around %11 In that case I will need to lose around 7lbs of fat and some muscle abvously. I read a lot of articles regarding to this manner. Hovewer many of them is explaning more about lowering BF from %20 to %10 Just wanted to check with your own experiences, what u guys are doing for fat loss after building muscle and how u do it? Thanks |
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To minimize muscle loss, pay close attention to your caloric deficit. Be patient and track your weight/mirror closely. You can try a 350-500 calorie deficit.
Good job on a successful bulk.
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Leangains.com, try an IF protocol like his or similar with some mild stims, yohimbine hcl, sesamin, alphaburn, etc. Also, the boys at ironaddicts.com have this down to a science and have been doing this for years. Getting very lean takes either drugs, great genetics and/or the absence of carbohydrates/insulin for the majority of the day.
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![]() i dont think i have that kind of genetics but will try to get as low as i can without drugs.. |
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Morning Cardio on an Empty Stomach on Thermo (I use OxyElitePro)=Fat loss while retaining most muscle mass if you stick to your training routine. Drink some BCAAs/EAA's throughout the day, then call me in the morning.
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Diet: high protein (not all in one meal as your body can only digest 30-60 grms of protein a meal depending on yoru size), low carb, no sugar, nuts, some fruit and veggies. I allow myself one day to eat whatever I want, which is usually Sunday, then I watch what I eat the rest of the week. If you don't like veggies, then egg whites, grilled chicken and sweet potatoes go a long way.
Stairmaster to help preserve the joints (I had knee surgery so I can't run or jump yet) then weight training. |
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What is the most effective cardio as far as heat and time-effective? I personally think biking for cardio is dumb... but jump-rope and sprinting seem to work up a sweat pretty quick, as well as kick-boxing practice on a 200lb bag.
If I'm taking the proper amount of protein, but only doing cardio for a while, will I still lose muscle from burning calories? |
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unfortunately yes, because your muscles will become weaker if u dont do weight lifting. once they r weaker, it means they will lose muscle..
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![]() Do the above in the morning, then weight training 4 days a week after work, eat better, and report back. You will be in summer shape in no time |
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I forgot, OP what does your typical week of training look like?
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![]() One of his quotes; "PS You said that you gained muscle during your weight loss from 225-208, unfortunatly that is not possible. You gain mass from a caloric surplus, and lose weight in a deficit. You just leaned out and appeared more defined" I was a D1 athlete, black-belt, and worked out with the best trainers. You have probably never worked out "hard" in your life, nor excelled at any sport. Good day Mr Troll and keep telling everyone else on the forum that are full of shit.
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I'm interested, what part of my post do you not agree with? Everything I posted is a proven, and idiot proof, way to lose weight. I will explain: The diet portion is, in effect, a paleo based diet (I'll give you time to read up on Paleo). and everyone needs a cheat day, saying you have to eat chicken/veggies all day, every day, is not sustainable. What people need to focus on is a sustainable figure/lifestyle, in my humble opinion. The stairmaster part, well you obviously haven't been on a stairmaster before at any level of intensity. Plus it's a good way to preserve your joints; I had knee surgery 4 months ago so I personally cannot run or jump but if one is able, I would recommend other forms of cardio. The cool thing about the stairmaster is that anyone can do it Last edited by golfinz; 02-01-2012 at 08:49 PM.. |
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If you think that limiting certain foods is really what makes losing weight successful, you're wrong; it's a caloric deficit. I'm not going to touch your post about only eating chicken and veggies, because that is not what I do or even mentioned. The key to success is to count calories. Have a proper fat and protein intake and feel free to fill the rest with CHO. Adjust according to your goals. If you include a weight training schedule too, excellent. That fucking simple. I eat what I want, when I want - I count calories by tracking macros. Please see http://www.leangains.com/2010/10/top...-debunked.html
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Finally, and most importantly, if you think it's "all about" limiting calories, then you're misguided. I agree that decreasing the amount of calories one takes in is important/necessary in losing weight, but it's also the TYPE of calories one takes in. For example, with all else equal, if we both had only 1500 calories a day, and you did it with pizza/burgers/cokes and I did it with chicken/veggies/fruits I GUARANTEE I would be in better shape and be able to lift more. Why? Because our body is a machine and what you put in is what you get out. The body burns healthy food more efficiently then processed/fattening foods. Plus, if we stick with that 1500 K diet, you would be able to eat maybe 3 pieces of pizza while on the other hand I could have many chicken breats, tons of veggies, egg whites, and a protein shake. That will fuel me all day where as the food you eat won't get you through half a day. I am also recommending that people do weight loss in a sustainable fashion, not by "flash dieting." Making correct choices is far superior then counting calories. I understand your point about calorie deficts, but it isn't as "F'ing" easy as you put it or we would all be as chisled as Greg Plitt. It takes time, and dedication. And btw, I don't need a link on the internet showing the the "top 10 myths" of anything. I don't believe everthing I read on the internet like some people do ![]() |
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PS Counting calories will always win out. You're playing a guessing game with just eating "clean foods." That's why 9/10 people never get the results they want.
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I don't make it up, educate yourself. http://examine.com/faq/how-much-prot...e-sitting.html check the sources
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