Potential of New Fuel System

sdstatestud88 · 06-16-2011, 03:43 PM

With the potential of a new fuel system coming out in the near future...regardless of who the manufacturer is...

Will these upgraded turbo setups, more specifically RB have a bump in horsepower? Or are we already at the top of their efficiency range?

Any input would be greatly appreciated

Q4P · 06-16-2011, 03:44 PM

I think the RB's are far from their efficiency range...

enrita · 06-16-2011, 03:52 PM

Turbo Dynamics told me that 20 psi are golden for my turbos which are similar to the rbs.
Means 24-25 psi is no issues for the turbos. The problem is fueling even already at 18 psi.

sdstatestud88 · 06-16-2011, 03:58 PM

Lets say we can get proper fueling up to 25 or 30 psi whatever? Is there any way to guess the potential then for the horsepower to the wheels...

Without Methanol?

Wit Methanol?

Syndicategt · 06-16-2011, 04:01 PM

Even without turbo upgrades, stock turbo's will crank out better numbers. Timing will improve and run less lean, I think we could see 450-500 hp out of the stock turbos. We are using methanol as a bandaid right now, a cure would be a new fuel system which will help anyone with FBO wanting to run high boost on stock/upgraded turbos.

creaminz · 06-16-2011, 04:04 PM

Shiv mentiond something about making 600 rwhp with better fuel pump and meth.

Shellacked135i · 06-16-2011, 04:09 PM

With more fuel on tap and methanol on top there should be more power available theoretically.

sdstatestud88 · 06-16-2011, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by creaminz

Shiv mentiond something about making 600 rwhp with better fuel pump and meth.

He said this in regards to the upgraded turbos on the market like RB?

scottp999 · 06-16-2011, 04:38 PM

Rob has said that the stock manifold will restrict power levels before his turbos will. I'm hoping for another 50whp of of pump gas from current numbers on RB's, but would settle for 30. That would be amazing.

I'm sure others want more.

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Syndicategt Brigadier General 153 Rep 3,730 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Nor Cal iTrader: (11)	Even without turbo upgrades, stock turbo's will crank out better numbers. Timing will improve and run less lean, I think we could see 450-500 hp out of the stock turbos. We are using methanol as a bandaid right now, a cure would be a new fuel system which will help anyone with FBO wanting to run high boost on stock/upgraded turbos. __________________ 2008 BMW 335i e90 - Sold - Rob Beck Turbos / PROcede V5 / Aquamist HFS-4 / AR Downpipes / AE Exhaust / ER Comp FMIC / ER CP / TiAL BOV / Custom Intake / RPI Scoops / Quaife LSD / Swift-Koni Coilovers / DSS HS / Morr VS8.2 Sig Black / Michelin PSS / P3 Boost Guage / M3 body / M3 steering wheel / Adam's Rotors / Hawk HPS / SS lines /
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