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      01-06-2012, 02:11 PM   #1
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US Airforce Contract

"Any president whose actions so consistently refute his own words must have deep contempt for the intelligence of the American public."


The obama administration told U.S. owned Hawker Beechcraft earlier this week they are being excluded from bidding on the US Air Force contract for a light attack aircraft. That leaves Brazilian owned Embraer as the likely recipient of the lucrative deal. I found this one hard to believe so I did a little research. It was tough because this was completely ignored by the main stream media. The information is out there on several conservative sites. Please see the two articles linked below.

This is a double slap in the face of the United States . At a time when jobs, the economy, and security are the most critical priorities for our country, the Obama administration decides to send a defense contract to a foreign owned company.

This has to be the stupidest thing this administration has done to date. This is not just a dumb decision, it is a perfect example of why this president is such a poor leader. He talks about wanting jobs. He says we need to force companies to repatriate billions of dollars that Americans keep overseas. He wants to raise taxes so he can spend billions on stimulus that does nothing to stimulate anything.



And when itís time to act, he sends our tax dollars overseas at the expense of American jobs and income for an American company. This is nothing more than a Chicago-style political pay back; but this time it is at the expense of our national security.


How much more damage will obama be allowed to do in the next 14 months? One of the lead stories in the media this week blasted congress for insider trading. If this contract goes to Embraer it will be a huge pay off to another George Soros company.


When will the 4th estate do itís constitutionally protected job and expose the real obama to the American people?


Article from REDSTATE Posted by Ben Howe Monday, November 21st at 6:00AM EST:


Obama Administration Sends Weapons Contract to Foreign Company with Ties to Iran


Article from WORLDPRESS By Gary P Jackson| NOVEMBER 22, 2011 ∑ 4:17 PM


Hawker-Beechcraft Denied Big Air Force Contract in Favor of Brazilian Company With Soros Connections


http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...exclusion.html


Article from A Time For Choosing ∑ Just another WordPress.com

http://www.kansas.com/2011/11/23/211...review-of.html


We can no longer depend on the media to pass on any news that might be construed as negative towards the democrats.

Please pass these articles to your friends to insure they get the information lacking from so much of todayís liberal press.

How much more damage will obama be allowed to do in the next 14 months? One of the lead stories in the media this week blasted congress for insider trading. If this contract goes to Embraer it will be a huge pay off to another George Soros company.

When will the 4th estate do itís constitutionally protected job and expose the real obama to the American people?

Article from REDSTATE Posted by Ben Howe Monday, November 21st at 6:00AM EST:

Obama Administration Sends Weapons Contract to Foreign Company with Ties to Iran


Article from WORLDPRESS By Gary P Jackson| NOVEMBER 22, 2011 ∑ 4:17 PM


Hawker-Beechcraft Denied Big Air Force Contract in Favor of Brazilian Company With Soros Connections


http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...exclusion.html


Article from A Time For Choosing ∑ Just another WordPress.com

http://www.kansas.com/2011/11/23/211...review-of.html

We can no longer depend on the media to pass on any news that might be construed as negative towards the democrats.

Please pass these articles to your friends to insure they get the information lacking from so much of todayís liberal press.
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Knowing a bit about government solicitations and contracting I can guess what happened. They were non-compliant which means they didn't address the government RFP which probably asked for certain capabilities, etc. When you are non-compliant it means you never got to the competition, therefore you were never considered, therefore no debriefing is warranted. The government has the right to get what it's after, what it actually wants and asked for. It's a tough world out there but I'd bet a beer they screwed up on their proposal and now are trying to pull in the politicos to rig the result. And BTW, they absolutely didn't spend $100M on this bid, maybe a couple hundred thousand at the outside in B&P money.
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Gamoto, how stupid do you think we are? After all, we're capable of financing BMWs, so it's a pretty good bet we can also use google.

You reprinted the propaganda piece word-for-word; next time, try to actually post your own words in this forum - it makes for better conversation. Oh, and you may want to mention the parts of the article which have already been determined to be bullshit:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/hawker.asp

Lastly, like OldArmy, I also know something about this process, and in-fact the US Air Force is not directly controlled by the Obama Administration.

But nevermind all that, just keep on reading that right-wing bullshit!
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Gamoto, how stupid do you think we are? After all, we're capable of financing BMWs, so it's a pretty good bet we can also use google.

You reprinted the propaganda piece word-for-word; next time, try to actually post your own words in this forum - it makes for better conversation. Oh, and you may want to mention the parts of the article which have already been determined to be bullshit:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/hawker.asp

Lastly, like OldArmy, I also know something about this process, and in-fact the US Air Force is not directly controlled by the Obama Administration.

But nevermind all that, just keep on reading that right-wing bullshit!
You such a liberal. If you believe Obama is for troops you are sadly mistaken.

As a former US soldier I can tell you that our wonderful president has just announce changes to combat pay so instead of making an extra $269 in combat pay a month it will now be prorated by another gov't bureaucrat. This same president that claims to care about troops but my god he is pushing for more union pay and benefits for gov't employees but screw the military.
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You such a liberal. If you believe Obama is for troops you are sadly mistaken.
We know, you hate Obama, got it...

Let's see: Bush & Cheney - started two wars, one of which had no purpose, with no plans or exit strategies. They were perfectly happy to let thousands of troops die, tens of thousands get maimed, all while running out the clock on their administration, with no sign of ever intending to end the wars. And all that time, places like Walter Reed were in despicable condition. Boy, that's really supporting the troops! And they never got Bin Laden, just gave up.

On to Obama - Is bringing all the troops home from Iraq, and has a plan to conclude Afghanistan. And he got Bin Laden.

One of these Presidents wants US troops to live, while the other caused thousands to die. Oh and by the way, one of them was so incompetent, he allowed 3,000 US civilians to be killed in the worst terrorist attack on US soil. Can you figure out which is which?
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One of these Presidents wants US troops to live, while the other caused thousands to die. Oh and by the way, one of them was so incompetent, he allowed 3,000 US civilians to be killed in the worst terrorist attack on US soil. Can you figure out which is which?
Are you so warped that you actually believe what you are typing? What a disgrace..
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Are you so warped that you actually believe what you are typing? What a disgrace..
Good point...... Oh wait, you don't have one; you just like making aimless insults.

So which one of my factual statements are you going to try to discredit with your right-wing logic, champ?
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Good point...... Oh wait, you don't have one; you just like making aimless insults.

So which one of my factual statements are you going to try to discredit with your right-wing logic, champ?
The fact that you actually had the audacity to proclaim that any one person was responsible for "allowing" what happened on 9/11. Not that I really care what you think, and vice versa, we'll never meet or know each other. But even coming from a robot, that is an insulting and completely ignorant statement.
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One of these Presidents wants US troops to live, while the other caused thousands to die. Oh and by the way, one of them was so incompetent, he allowed 3,000 US civilians to be killed in the worst terrorist attack on US soil. Can you figure out which is which?
this has to be the most ignorant thing i have ever heard. just stop posting in this section. You have forever lost the little creditability you had left...

no im not a ring wing nut. (i know you are gonna call me since you call everyone that if they disagree with you).
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this has to be the most ignorant thing i have ever heard. just stop posting in this section. You have forever lost the little creditability you had left...

no im not a ring wing nut. (i know you are gonna call me since you call everyone that if they disagree with you).
Gotta admit I'm pretty shocked too... Quite a statement to hold Bush personally responsible for 9/11 only eight months into his first term.
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Well, there's this:
The August 6, 2001 PDB Entitled "bin Ladin Determined to Strike in US". Bush's oversight was unintentional, but reflective of his incompetence.

Then there's the fact that Bush/Cheney had no intent to ever end the wars. But you don't want to hear from me, so bye bye.
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Well, there's this:
The August 6, 2001 PDB Entitled "bin Ladin Determined to Strike in US". Bush's oversight was unintentional, but reflective of his incompetence.

Then there's the fact that Bush/Cheney had no intent to ever end the wars. But you don't want to hear from me, so bye bye.
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One of these Presidents wants US troops to live, while the other caused thousands to die. Oh and by the way, one of them was so incompetent, he allowed 3,000 US civilians to be killed in the worst terrorist attack on US soil. Can you figure out which is which?
Incompetent........? Incompetent was Bill Clinton for letting Bin Laden live when he had a chance to kill him years before Bush was in office. So I would say to you that the responsibility for the Twin Towers should be laid at Clinton's door and not his successor. BTW: A raid of that magnitude took more than 8 months to create

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In hindsight...
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In hindsight...
I thought this post was about an airplane?
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I thought this post was about an airplane?
Me too...
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Me too...
So I guess they are not going to build the F-35's backup engine in Ma. after all. Since it is supposed to take over the role of the next CAS aircraft. How was my transition back to airplanes?
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Incompetent........? Incompetent was Bill Clinton for letting Bin Laden live when he had a chance to kill him years before Bush was in office. So I would say to you that the responsibility for the Twin Towers should be laid at Clinton's door and not his successor. BTW: A raid of that magnitude took more than 8 months to create

Well Said.
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Gamoto, how stupid do you think we are? After all, we're capable of financing BMWs, so it's a pretty good bet we can also use google.

You reprinted the propaganda piece word-for-word; next time, try to actually post your own words in this forum - it makes for better conversation. Oh, and you may want to mention the parts of the article which have already been determined to be bullshit:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/hawker.asp

Lastly, like OldArmy, I also know something about this process, and in-fact the US Air Force is not directly controlled by the Obama Administration.

But nevermind all that, just keep on reading that right-wing bullshit!
Good post.

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We know, you hate Obama, got it...

Let's see: Bush & Cheney - started two wars, one of which had no purpose, with no plans or exit strategies. They were perfectly happy to let thousands of troops die, tens of thousands get maimed, all while running out the clock on their administration, with no sign of ever intending to end the wars. And all that time, places like Walter Reed were in despicable condition. Boy, that's really supporting the troops! And they never got Bin Laden, just gave up.

On to Obama - Is bringing all the troops home from Iraq, and has a plan to conclude Afghanistan. And he got Bin Laden.

One of these Presidents wants US troops to live, while the other caused thousands to die. Oh and by the way, one of them was so incompetent, he allowed 3,000 US civilians to be killed in the worst terrorist attack on US soil. Can you figure out which is which?
lolz retard post.
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