Why isn't the media criticizing Obama for taking credit for all these? - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

Day Laborer · 10-12-2012, 12:25 AM

I'm new to politics and may be misinformed, so constructive criticism is welcome.

Saving General Motors- Bush initiated the bail out for GM; Obama reinforced it by throwing more money to GM.

Wiki:"December 19, 2008: President Bush approved a bailout plan and gave General Motors and Chrysler $13.4 billion in financing from TARP (Troubled Assets Relief Program) funds, as well as $4 billion to be "withdrawn later."

Taking credit for Killing Bin Laden-
Wikipedia: "After the death of bin Laden, some officials from the Bush administration, such as Bush Office of Legal Counsel attorney John Yoo and former attorney general under Bush Michael Mukasey, wrote op-eds claiming that enhanced interrogation techniques they authorized yielded the intelligence that later led to locating bin Laden's hideout. Mukasey specifically stated that the waterboarding of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was what brought out the crucial detail of the nickname of bin Laden's courier." (he deserves some credit- but not enough to use it as if he was responsible for it)
NOT TO MENTION THE CLEAR VIOLATION OF OPSEC AND USING OUR ARMED FORCES' VICTORIES FOR HIS OWN POLITICAL ADVANCES.

Pulling out of Iraq- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2..._Iraqi_Cabinet

The original Status of Forces Agreement between US and Iraq to withdraw from Iraq was signed in November 2008; while Bush was president. So Obama just followed what was already agreed upon.

These highlights are what our President has been recently using during his campaign. Many I believe a majority link back to what our GW initiated.
So why is he getting all the credit for the things that he didn't start?

Discuss:

OldArmy · 10-12-2012, 02:56 AM

How dare you challenge the princeling? After all he has a Nobel prize.

Fox128i · 10-12-2012, 10:50 AM

This could be entertaining.

Team Plutonium · 10-12-2012, 10:59 AM

meh... weak bait.

Radamez · 10-12-2012, 02:06 PM

guess it only makes sense for him to take credit for the bad and not the good.

nailer335 · 10-16-2012, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Radamez

guess it only makes sense for him to take credit for the bad and not the good.

What the OP is stating is that he shouldn't take credit for what took place before him, just because the outcomes are positive. Especially since he shouldn't but does provide bush with all of the credit for everything negative he doesn't want responsibility for.

pgviper · 10-17-2012, 10:12 AM

The media is heavily liberal biased and we all know it. I'm not naming any one in particular, all of them are.

Radamez · 10-17-2012, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nailer335

What the OP is stating is that he shouldn't take credit for what took place before him, just because the outcomes are positive. Especially since he shouldn't but does provide bush with all of the credit for everything negative he doesn't want responsibility for.

It's a catch 22 is my point.

jkrig · 10-18-2012, 06:09 PM

So.....if we think Bush initiated GM bailout.......I wonder if those who believe it was a bad idea would still be against it.......

Day Laborer · 10-18-2012, 10:51 PM

I personally think (regardless of who the president is) that a second term president doesn't really have the incentive to make an impact during their 2nd term.
A second term president doesn't have anything to lose!

Secondly, Obama's administration attacking Romney's comment of saying 15% tax on capital gains is "a good way to encourage the economy to grow" is ridiculous.

Why doesn't the media point out the obvious that lower tax rate (15%) on capital gains DOES ENCOURAGE INVESTMENT; THUS STIMULATING THE ECONOMY?

Who the hell would want to pay 28-35% capital gains on Stocks or when selling their house??

10-12-2012, 12:25 AM	#1
Day Laborer SK1(SW) Drives: 2008 E92 6MT M3 Alpine White Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 327 iTrader: (5)	Why isn't the media criticizing Obama for taking credit for all these? I'm new to politics and may be misinformed, so constructive criticism is welcome. Saving General Motors- Bush initiated the bail out for GM; Obama reinforced it by throwing more money to GM. Wiki:"December 19, 2008: President Bush approved a bailout plan and gave General Motors and Chrysler $13.4 billion in financing from TARP (Troubled Assets Relief Program) funds, as well as $4 billion to be "withdrawn later." Taking credit for Killing Bin Laden- Wikipedia: "After the death of bin Laden, some officials from the Bush administration, such as Bush Office of Legal Counsel attorney John Yoo and former attorney general under Bush Michael Mukasey, wrote op-eds claiming that enhanced interrogation techniques they authorized yielded the intelligence that later led to locating bin Laden's hideout. Mukasey specifically stated that the waterboarding of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was what brought out the crucial detail of the nickname of bin Laden's courier." (he deserves some credit- but not enough to use it as if he was responsible for it) NOT TO MENTION THE CLEAR VIOLATION OF OPSEC AND USING OUR ARMED FORCES' VICTORIES FOR HIS OWN POLITICAL ADVANCES. Pulling out of Iraq- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2..._Iraqi_Cabinet The original Status of Forces Agreement between US and Iraq to withdraw from Iraq was signed in November 2008; while Bush was president. So Obama just followed what was already agreed upon. These highlights are what our President has been recently using during his campaign. Many I believe a majority link back to what our GW initiated. So why is he getting all the credit for the things that he didn't start? Discuss: __________________
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Day Laborer SK1(SW) Drives: 2008 E92 6MT M3 Alpine White Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 327 iTrader: (5)	I personally think (regardless of who the president is) that a second term president doesn't really have the incentive to make an impact during their 2nd term. A second term president doesn't have anything to lose! Secondly, Obama's administration attacking Romney's comment of saying 15% tax on capital gains is "a good way to encourage the economy to grow" is ridiculous. Why doesn't the media point out the obvious that lower tax rate (15%) on capital gains DOES ENCOURAGE INVESTMENT; THUS STIMULATING THE ECONOMY? Who the hell would want to pay 28-35% capital gains on Stocks or when selling their house?? __________________

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