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      11-02-2012, 01:31 PM   #45
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The war in the middle east doesn't have a Trillion dollar price tag.
And freedom is not cheap, sad to say.
Obama has spent twice, in 4 years what Bush spent in 8 years.

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What is lame about that???
You think a $15T economy and trillions spent in wars and hundreds of thousands dead can be fixed overnight???

I believe we are still not feeling the FULL effect of Bush's era...
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Ah, so that is how you vote there...tradition.
Does not matter who the candidates really are
Unfortunately, 90% of Americans follow the same path...
And living in TX, there is absolutely no need for me to vote
Its a big deal. At least in the area of Mississippi where my grandparents live. My older sister voted Obama last election. My grandpa wouldn't speak to her for the longest time. It's a shame really.
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Well, I'm not in the Romney camp, per se. But I'd vote for him simply because getting rid of "the last guy" in the persidency is basically the only thing the American voter can do these days. At best, there is SOME choice during the respective Democratic and Republican primaries. But for the actual vote for the presidency? Nah. Neither of these guys represent me. And if anything good bfealls me due to any action that either of them might take, I will assume it's purely coincidental. Their decisions are really made to benefit their paymasters—who are most definitely not the American public.

Constantly switching between Democrats and Republicans is the only "check" that the public has any more...pathetic though it may be.
Are you suggesting that the United States; heck, the entire world, wouldn't have been better off had Bush never been voted into office for 8 years? That joker inherited a country that was running a healthy surplus from the previous presidency, and ran the country into the ground. I'm sorry, but his misguided actions were a huge part of the reason Obama inherited a massive mess of an economy and a society that policies were based on ideology rather than reason.

Romney all but declared war on China during the foriegn policy debate. Only a fool snaps at the hand that feeds it. A foreign reserve dump will be all it takes for the US to fold like a deck of cards. People need to understand that a good businessman doesn't necessarily have the skills to run an economy. They are completely different disciplines.

Those of you who think voting for Obama and Romney are basically the same thing are wrong. Republican policies are archaic, discriminatory, and sometimes downright scary. I believe in a system of checks and balances, but unfortunately the GOP is so far to the right that it's impossible to move forward.
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Still blaming Bush, so lame.
What's lame is thinking that we shouldn't blame Bush... your blind to the devastation and pain he caused this country.
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Voted!

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People need to understand that a good businessman doesn't necessarily have the skills to run an economy. They are completely different disciplines.
+1 on everything, especially this. I've said the same thing before in other places.

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Those of you who think voting for Obama and Romney are basically the same thing are wrong. Republican policies are archaic, discriminatory, and sometimes downright scary. I believe in a system of checks and balances, but unfortunately the GOP is so far to the right that it's impossible to move forward.
I agree with this as well, I think a center-leaning and moderate view is often the best way forward, and between the two camps, it's clear to me who's closer to the center.
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NO-Bama! 4 years and nothing to show for it, if your undecided you really want to wait another 4 years to decide? I say if your unhappy, worse off than 4 years ago and nothings getting better than it is indeed time for change.
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Someone stupid sets fire to your house.
You call the fireman to put it out, and they do.
Now your house looks a mess.
Is it the fireman's fault?
Now go fix your house.
Just don't call your stupid friend back again...
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I'm not American but I would vote for Obama. I just don't like Romney at all. I get the impression from him that he has a real nasty side. I wouldn't be able to trust him one bit..
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I agree with this as well, I think a center-leaning and moderate view is often the best way forward, and between the two camps, it's clear to me who's closer to the center.
Exactly. It's not like I'm some bleeding liberal, and neither are the democratic party's policies. It's simply more centrist, and that's what a country needs to thrive.
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What is lame about that???
You think a $15T economy and trillions spent in wars and hundreds of thousands dead can be fixed overnight???

I believe we are still not feeling the FULL effect of Bush's era...
When did overnight become 4 years?
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Look how the man has done business the past 4 years. Heck, it is the same as what is going on now, Libya, Benghazi. No control. The first 2 years the Republicans were locked out of everything. All back door deals. Health care shoved down everyone's throats. The US has become an entitlement state, more people on food stamps, etc. Socialism is great until you run out of Other Peoples Money !
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Mitt..we need jobs, not more spending.
How exactly is Mittens going to do that? By cutting taxes for the rich so they can line their pockets further and create an even bigger gap in society?

What you are saying is, take a gamble on giving rich people more money and hope they put it toward creating jobs.

Have you looked around? People of all societies are hoarding cash because the belief in the system is fading.

Its a losing bet, sorry.


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The war in the middle east doesn't have a Trillion dollar price tag.
And freedom is not cheap, sad to say.
Obama has spent twice, in 4 years what Bush spent in 8 years.
Much of what was spent was already signed into law and appropriated by Bush just prior to Obama being elected. Did you not know that or did you choose to ignore it?

And let's face it, Obama was set up to fail. Let's say you wreck you car and get out of the vehicle. Then some one comes in and sits in the drivers seat. Can you seriously blame that person for wrecking your car because they are sitting in your car, which YOU just wrecked yourself? And then blame them for trying to fix it for you because you wrecked it. And then after you wrecked your car, you then bailed out the other drivers for not having insurane after you wrecked into them?

Obama got a shitty deck of cards, and he did the best he could fixing up 8 years of wreckage.

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How exactly is Mittens going to do that? By cutting taxes for the rich so they can line their pockets further and create an even bigger gap in society?

What you are saying is, take a gamble on giving rich people more money and hope they put it toward creating jobs.

Have you looked around? People of all societies are hoarding cash because the belief in the system is fading.

Its a losing bet, sorry.


He isn't going to cut taxes on rich people he stated that, however what he is going to do is cut obamas ridiculous programs and his spendings. The last thing we need is obamacare. What romney has in store:
less spending, more recovery, oil independent, creating jobs OUTSIDE of the government, less government involvement towards small businesses, giving opportunities for small businesses to expand rather then them paying for every tooth ache the bum down the street has. IMO sounds a lot better then what obama supposedly has lined up:
free health care, a shitty foreign policy, a terrible economic solution that's going to back fire onto the middle class anyways, all the lies from his last election, tons of other apologizes he has in stock for the middle east, bankruptcy of small businesses, a terrible immigration policy, must I go on? Hell america is becoming communist because of this joke.

Have YOU looked around? Since he's come in its been getting worse and worse and the only excuse he's got is Bush left him in a rut..sure he did but that's no excuse to increase debt TWICE as much. I have no idea how anyone in their right mind can vote for a 3rdworld-asskissing-apologetic-excusefull-unpatriotic-monkey. Hah just look at his background, he couldn't prove on the spot whether he was an american, he admitted to being a muslim AFTER he was elected, he went to an only black anti-america church, first year in his presidency he kissed the hand of a muslim leader...the president of THE UNITED STATES..the most powerful man in the world kissed that mans hand, he apologized to the middle east for bombing OUR embassy and blaming it on a movie...it was on 9.11 and he didn't even call defense for the over run embassy, there was a 4 star general in the next base over and there aren't many people between him and president to send support, yea guess who called it off.. the man himself. lol i don't even know why anyone would consider this joke, country's done if gets elected.
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Exactly. It's not like I'm some bleeding liberal, and neither are the democratic party's policies. It's simply more centrist, and that's what a country needs to thrive.
All liberals claim their centrists and moderates. Democrat party policies are moderate/centrist.
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...Obama got a shitty deck of cards, and he did the best he could fixing up 8 years of wreckage.
You do realize Obama was a US Senator prior to becoming President, don't you? He helped create that "shitty deck of cards" and continued it his first 2 years of office when he and his party had complete control of the political process.

I'm not a big fan of Mitt, but I'll take my chances. Can't do any worse than the novice we have in office now.
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even though Barack is black, wasn't it that George Bush Jr. looked like a monkey?

And Romney is a religious nut who will save the country.... from what? if you look at the economical numbers (and from the perspective of the other 5.8billion people in the world) Barack hasn't done a bad job. People in some parts of the world are actually starting to warm up to America.

don't shoot me, i'm from the country holding all your politicians secret bank accounts :-) If I recall, we have more of Romneys money than Baracks...
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Doesn't anyone feel duped for feeling they have to choose between a dbag and a turd sandwich? They're both big government Goldman Sachs candidates. They both support the NDAA and that's reason enough for me to say no thanks. Do most people care? No. They talk in the abstract and regurgitate what they hear on the tv and radio. Tiresome.

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The war in the middle east doesn't have a Trillion dollar price tag.
And freedom is not cheap, sad to say.
Obama has spent twice, in 4 years what Bush spent in 8 years.
WOW!!!
You are so manipulated by the media, that is insane...
Show me the figures please and reliable sources.
Obama did NOT spend even close to what Bush did in 8 years.

And yes, the wars cost us MUCH more than $1T so far.

"Freedom is not cheap"??? What does your freedom have to do with Iraq war?? Explain please.
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