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      11-05-2012, 10:57 AM   #1
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I don't want to vote.

There's just no way it can work. If I vote Romney then all you rightwing buffoons might actually shut the fuck up. If I vote Obama--my true choice--I'll be thrilled if he wins, but I won't ever hear the end of it from my friends who claim to be "socially liberal and fiscally conservative."

I have to vote and I know I'm voting Obama, but I just don't want to advocate for behavior like we've been seeing. I wish we could stage an election boycott (Don't tell me why that would make us look weak to our enemies and blah blah blah. With the state of things, I'd rather the whole world just perish before I retire).
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      11-05-2012, 11:05 AM   #2
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...so don't vote. Obama will win your state without your vote, and you won't have to hear it from either side.

Seems like a win win for you no?
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There's just no way it can work. If I vote Romney then all you rightwing buffoons might actually shut the fuck up. If I vote Obama--my true choice--I'll be thrilled if he wins, but I won't ever hear the end of it from my friends who claim to be "socially liberal and fiscally conservative."

I have to vote and I know I'm voting Obama, but I just don't want to advocate for behavior like we've been seeing. I wish we could stage an election boycott (Don't tell me why that would make us look weak to our enemies and blah blah blah. With the state of things, I'd rather the whole world just perish before I retire).

Vote for whoever you want and tell your friends it's none of their business.

'If you don't stand for something, you'll likely fall for anything.'
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      11-05-2012, 11:47 AM   #4
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Vote for whoever you want and tell your friends it's none of their business.

'If you don't stand for something, you'll likely fall for anything.'
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      11-05-2012, 12:37 PM   #5
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But it feels like no matter what I stand for, there will be people telling me that I'm making a bad choice. Yeah, I have a backbone, but I don't enjoy being told I'm wrong by uneducated morons who lick their cash instead of eating it.
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But it feels like no matter what I stand for, there will be people telling me that I'm making a bad choice. Yeah, I have a backbone, but I don't enjoy being told I'm wrong by uneducated morons who lick their cash instead of eating it.
Don't put so much stock in what other's think about your opinions. Do what YOU want to do.
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But it feels like no matter what I stand for, there will be people telling me that I'm making a bad choice. Yeah, I have a backbone, but I don't enjoy being told I'm wrong by uneducated morons who lick their cash instead of eating it.
There will always be people who disagree with you, your actions, or decisions. At some point you can't worry about the opinions of others. Instead worry about what you feel is the right thing to do.

Opinions are like arse holes, mate. Everyone has one and some are bigger than others.
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Go Vote... Fight the crowd if need be! Make your one voice count!

It all adds up! I would go if i could...

It doesn't matter who you vote for, as long as you have given thoughts into your vote !
vote for what you believe is right or left
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but I won't ever hear the end of it from my friends who claim to be "socially liberal and fiscally conservative."
So, who are your friends voting for then ? As far as I can tell, neither of the 2 main candidates fit the bill of being both socially liberal and fiscally conservative. Depending on who you vote for, you can get 1 or the other, but not both at the same time (for POTUS at least, cant speak to the local candidates in your area)

I would think that the fact there is no available choice that meets both of their criteria should concern them more than who you are voting for.
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They call themselves socially liberal to justify their fiscal perspectives. Whether they are or aren't is not the point. They like to think that the democrats will be happy as long as gay people can get married and women can have abortions, and as such believe that there are enough liberal-minded people in this country to prevent a total right-wing takeover. I've always voted democrat and I will continue to do so, because my money is irrelevant so long as I have enough of it to pay taxes and give to charity and enjoy my life in comfort. Obviously that's a dumb statement, but the point is, I know I don't need to fight to keep my money as long as I keep making it.

The reason why I said I don't want to vote is that I don't want to encourage this highly adversarial behavior among all Americans. I just don't feel right about it. I feel like the person that sees a crime and does nothing to stop it.
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      11-05-2012, 02:49 PM   #11
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The reason why I said I don't want to vote is that I don't want to encourage this highly adversarial behavior among all Americans. I just don't feel right about it. I feel like the person that sees a crime and does nothing to stop it.
There's only so much each of us can do as individuals to try and slowly bring around a more harmonious political environment. It's hard to change others.

It's clear you have always been a democrat, and always will be. Perhaps if the divisive nature of the country really bothers you so much, then maybe you can start by changing yourself, and refraining from referring to those who vote for the other party as "buffoons", as you did in your first post, that might be a small step towards a more collaborative posture... just sayin....
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There's only so much each of us can do as individuals to try and slowly bring around a more harmonious political environment. It's hard to change others.

It's clear you have always been a democrat, and always will be. Perhaps if the divisive nature of the country really bothers you so much, then maybe you can start by changing yourself, and refraining from referring to those who vote for the other party as "buffoons", as you did in your first post, that might be a small step towards a more collaborative posture... just sayin....
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Why is it that whenever someone disagrees with a Democrat that's called divisive, but if someone disagrees with a Republican then that's called standing up for your principles? This cracks me up.

Vote for whoever you want to, that's your right. Stop attempting to stifle someone's else's right to call you a moron for doing so. You're free to do the same.

Or here's a better idea - find better friends that are willing to not just disagree but also have a reasonable conversation with you as to why...
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Vote or don't vote but for god's sake man up and make your choice.
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this sounds like some 8 year old b!tching that he doesnt want to do a homework assignment.
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Vote..even if you spoil you ballot. There are so many in this world that don't have the right to cast a ballot.

Get off you ass, pick up your purse and make your mark! Remember how valuable democracy is.
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I was always going to vote. I was just saying I'm disappointed in the cause. If I pretend it's only for me, then voting is a satisfying process.
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if you don't vote, you cant bitch. Please vote. Every one counts and its important to participate in you country. It doesn't matter to me who you vote for, just vote.Dont worry about others, vote for who works for you. You know your financial situation, you know what is best for you. You have a personal situation that may and most likely differs from your peers.
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I voted and we won so I mean whatever.
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