335 V2 vs Shelby GT500 - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

E90ice · 11-18-2007, 08:46 PM

I'm thinking about racing my friends GT500 stock. We we're talking about it. I'm getting my V2 in about 2-3 days and then it might happen.

I was looking at dragtimes.com and the 1/4 mile times are kinda conflicting. From 13.4 to low 12's. Weird!

I have a full cat-back exhaust (no secondary cats) and V2 soon. So my car should, theoretically, run mid 12's.

Anyone ever raced one of these things before?

E90 335i · 11-18-2007, 08:53 PM

Those cars are a nasty straight line machine. You'll tear him in the twisties, as per Top Gear's horrible rating on their handling. I say get some DP, appropriate V2.0.2 map (should be out soon), and give him hell. If not, you should be able to hold your own without DP and 2.0.2. I am not a PROcede expert, as I am waiting on Helix to release their tune, but give it a try!

E90ice · 11-18-2007, 09:31 PM

I hope they will release the 2.0.2 map by the time I install my V2. I think it will an interesting race with him having some advantage over 100 mph.

FrothE90 · 11-18-2007, 10:22 PM

You're thinking about it? Why wouldn't you race him if its just for shits?

Robert · 11-18-2007, 10:42 PM

Americaaa fff yaaa. If you dont vote for Shelby you be a terrorist ;-)

Year's_End · 11-19-2007, 12:23 AM

Just race him and have fun with it. If you lose...oh no...you got the Bimmer.

TheAcAvenger · 11-20-2007, 06:29 PM

I lost by around 2-4 CLs from 20-120, but i'm bone stock. I'd imagine 1.47 would be able to to beat it in a close fashion with V2 leaving it in the dust.

sflgator · 11-20-2007, 08:15 PM

It could be close; I think he's got to be a great driver to equal the 0-60mph and 1/4 mi. times that the car mags got for the GT500...I believe those 'stangs are a bit more difficult to handle than our 335i's. I say with PROcede v2 and your exhaust, you'll take him by at least 2 CLs. It's worth a friendly run if done safely.

btw -- C&D got 4.5 sec. 0-60mph and 12.9 sec. @ 112mph 1/4 mi. for the 500BHP GT500 Cobra...

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...lby-gt500.html

Your PROcede v2 335i should be a bit faster than that...like I said above, even if he's a great driver, then you should still beat him by ~ 2 CLs.

GotAlottaCash · 11-20-2007, 11:26 PM

are you MT or AT? because i beat my brothers 03 cobra stock once or twice..dont ask how.. hes good at shifting but the AT doesnt quit...you should beat him..

Evo8MRto335I · 11-21-2007, 12:02 AM

You will take him.

L~R~G nor cal · 11-25-2007, 06:04 PM

Ya, you will take him for sure. It will be all about the launch. GT500s are hard to launch right. Too low rpm's and u stutter off the start, too high rpm's and they spin the tires. I think a stock gt500 with a good driver will have trouble running under 13 flat. So lets say he launches good, he still wont run under a 12.8. But hurry up, because if he throws a new belt on that supercharger you are game over. haha

turbocoins · 11-25-2007, 06:43 PM

The Shelby has a traction and weight problem. Once it gets up to speed, where the tires should hold, it runs into somewhat of a drag problem. It needs a few mods to overcome these issues at higher speeds. With a few more ponies (pun intended), it walks away at higher speeds.

E90ice · 11-25-2007, 06:44 PM

I talked to him, and we will try to set up a race soon.

First he wants me to race his 93 Mustang GT with light mods. Seriously! WFT?

E90 335i · 11-25-2007, 07:03 PM

Go embarrass that car first and then make a good run and beat the GT500. Is that car FI or NA?

And we want videos of both races!!!

BeMyWife330i · 11-25-2007, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E90 335i

Go embarrass that car first and then make a good run and beat the GT500. Is that car FI or NA?

And we want videos of both races!!!

YEA what he said

MteK · 11-26-2007, 10:22 AM

lose to the 93, then put some money on the gt500 race..

Trill335 · 11-29-2007, 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E90ice

I'm thinking about racing my friends GT500 stock. We we're talking about it. I'm getting my V2 in about 2-3 days and then it might happen.

I was looking at dragtimes.com and the 1/4 mile times are kinda conflicting. From 13.4 to low 12's. Weird!

I have a full cat-back exhaust (no secondary cats) and V2 soon. So my car should, theoretically, run mid 12's.

Anyone ever raced one of these things before?

Yes I have raced one at the dragstrip.

One word comes to mind...NASTY! The guy I was running with was very cool and babying the car down the track to a 12.85@109ish w/2.10 60ft. That tells you the potential of those cars.

I beat him once. That was when I went 13.27@103.3... he had a horrible launch and was unable to hook up. I knew this would happen after I made a burn-out from the water box to just across the starting line. I think he got a bit anxious and probably thought I had turned up the boost...I'm bone stock.

Good luck to you...run em hard!

E90ice · 11-29-2007, 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trill335

Yes I have raced one at the dragstrip.

One word comes to mind...NASTY! The guy I was running with was very cool and babying the car down the track to a 12.85@109ish w/2.10 60ft. That tells you the potential of those cars.

I beat him once. That was when I went 13.27@103.3...he had a horrible launch and was unable to hook up. I knew this would happen after I made a burn-out from the water box to just across the starting line. I think he got a bit anxious and probably thought I had tunred up the boost...I'm bone stock.

Good luck to you...run em hard!

Thanks, man. Nice stock time, bro!

I'm running PROcede V2 and Catless Exhaust. I'm confident that I can give him a good race.

Trill335 · 11-29-2007, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by E90ice

Thanks, man. Nice stock time, bro!

I'm running PROcede V2 and Catless Exhaust. I'm confident that I can give him a good race.

Thanks for the compliments. If you have the driver mod...You'll represent honorably!

I don't want to take a wee in your cheerios...but have your stuff together. If the guy can drive you'll be fighting for your life. If the gentleman I ran had shown up with his DR's...thank goodness he left them at home. I would have received an embarrasing public flogging. It wouldn't have even been close!

Are you running him on the track or the highway?

11-18-2007, 08:46 PM	#1
E90ice Banned Drives: 2008 335xi Coupe Join Date: May 2006 Location: WA Posts: 2,006 iTrader: (0)	335 V2 vs Shelby GT500 I'm thinking about racing my friends GT500 stock. We we're talking about it. I'm getting my V2 in about 2-3 days and then it might happen. I was looking at dragtimes.com and the 1/4 mile times are kinda conflicting. From 13.4 to low 12's. Weird! I have a full cat-back exhaust (no secondary cats) and V2 soon. So my car should, theoretically, run mid 12's. Anyone ever raced one of these things before? __________________
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11-18-2007, 09:31 PM	#3
E90ice Banned Drives: 2008 335xi Coupe Join Date: May 2006 Location: WA Posts: 2,006 iTrader: (0)	I hope they will release the 2.0.2 map by the time I install my V2. I think it will an interesting race with him having some advantage over 100 mph. __________________

11-19-2007, 12:23 AM	#6
Year's_End Cpt. Buzzkill Drives: '08 E92 335i Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: St. Pete, FL Posts: 11,788 iTrader: (0)	Just race him and have fun with it. If you lose...oh no...you got the Bimmer. __________________ _.[In a love/hate relationship with...] E92 335i: Space Grey\|Coral Red\|Aluminum Trim _________VMR V710s\|M-Sport Rear Bumper & Rockers\|M3 Spoiler\|Golf-T__________Moved on to the misc. Later, brahs.

11-20-2007, 06:29 PM	#7
TheAcAvenger Brigadier General Drives: 2007 E92 335i Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: 757, VA Posts: 3,073 iTrader: (1)	I lost by around 2-4 CLs from 20-120, but i'm bone stock. I'd imagine 1.47 would be able to to beat it in a close fashion with V2 leaving it in the dust. __________________ 2007 E92 335i - TC Kline DA Coilovers, HPA M3 Suspension Retrofit, Quaife LSD, Stoptech 6/4 BBK, Volk TE-37s, AR Downpipes, RDSport Quads, Forge DVs, Stett OC, RB Turbos, Procede V5, PWM Meth, Helix IC, EAS DCI, Rixster VEI, M-Tech Sides, OEM Aero Lip, Rieger Spoiler, Vorsteiner V-35 Hood, Performance Steering Wheel, Anthracite Headliner, OSS Headlights

11-20-2007, 08:15 PM	#8
sflgator Major General Drives: '09 MB C63 AMG & '08 MB GL450 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: U.S. Posts: 5,389 iTrader: (1)	It could be close; I think he's got to be a great driver to equal the 0-60mph and 1/4 mi. times that the car mags got for the GT500...I believe those 'stangs are a bit more difficult to handle than our 335i's. I say with PROcede v2 and your exhaust, you'll take him by at least 2 CLs. It's worth a friendly run if done safely. btw -- C&D got 4.5 sec. 0-60mph and 12.9 sec. @ 112mph 1/4 mi. for the 500BHP GT500 Cobra... http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...lby-gt500.html Your PROcede v2 335i should be a bit faster than that...like I said above, even if he's a great driver, then you should still beat him by ~ 2 CLs. __________________ \|2009 RENNtech MB C63 AMG \| Black/Black Leather/Black Maple \| Premium II \| MultiMedia \| iPod \| \| TeleAid \| Charcoal Filter Delete \| BMC High-Flow Air Filters \| High-Flow Secondary Cats \| Clear Side Markers \| Last edited by sflgator; 11-20-2007 at 09:21 PM.

11-18-2007, 08:53 PM	#2
E90 335i Banned Drives: 2007 E90 335i Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida Posts: 559 iTrader: (0)	Those cars are a nasty straight line machine. You'll tear him in the twisties, as per Top Gear's horrible rating on their handling. I say get some DP, appropriate V2.0.2 map (should be out soon), and give him hell. If not, you should be able to hold your own without DP and 2.0.2. I am not a PROcede expert, as I am waiting on Helix to release their tune, but give it a try!

11-18-2007, 10:22 PM	#4
FrothE90 Private Drives: None Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 53 iTrader: (0)	You're thinking about it? Why wouldn't you race him if its just for shits?

11-18-2007, 10:42 PM	#5
Robert Major General Drives: 135i, current is350 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Socal Posts: 6,765 iTrader: (1)	Americaaa fff yaaa. If you dont vote for Shelby you be a terrorist ;-)

11-20-2007, 11:26 PM	#9
GotAlottaCash Lieutenant Drives: E92 335i/ 08' 528i Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 540 iTrader: (4)	are you MT or AT? because i beat my brothers 03 cobra stock once or twice..dont ask how.. hes good at shifting but the AT doesnt quit...you should beat him..

11-21-2007, 12:02 AM	#10
Evo8MRto335I Captain Drives: 2009 Mercedes Benz C63 AMG Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tucson Posts: 968 iTrader: (1)	You will take him. __________________ 2009' C63 AMG, 2011' C300

11-25-2007, 06:04 PM	#11
L~R~G nor cal Perfection Is In The Details Drives: 06 E90 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,043 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2006 325i [0.00]	Ya, you will take him for sure. It will be all about the launch. GT500s are hard to launch right. Too low rpm's and u stutter off the start, too high rpm's and they spin the tires. I think a stock gt500 with a good driver will have trouble running under 13 flat. So lets say he launches good, he still wont run under a 12.8. But hurry up, because if he throws a new belt on that supercharger you are game over. haha

11-25-2007, 06:43 PM	#12
turbocoins Captain Drives: '08 Z06, '07 MKZ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warm Climate Posts: 751 iTrader: (0)	The Shelby has a traction and weight problem. Once it gets up to speed, where the tires should hold, it runs into somewhat of a drag problem. It needs a few mods to overcome these issues at higher speeds. With a few more ponies (pun intended), it walks away at higher speeds.

11-25-2007, 06:44 PM	#13
E90ice Banned Drives: 2008 335xi Coupe Join Date: May 2006 Location: WA Posts: 2,006 iTrader: (0)	I talked to him, and we will try to set up a race soon. First he wants me to race his 93 Mustang GT with light mods. Seriously! WFT? __________________

11-25-2007, 07:03 PM	#14
E90 335i Banned Drives: 2007 E90 335i Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida Posts: 559 iTrader: (0)	Go embarrass that car first and then make a good run and beat the GT500. Is that car FI or NA? And we want videos of both races!!!

11-26-2007, 10:22 AM	#16
MteK Brigadier General Drives: // 135i //, X5 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bay Area Posts: 3,215 iTrader: (41)	lose to the 93, then put some money on the gt500 race..

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