OpenFlash Tablet for N52

N52mechie · 11-19-2013, 04:44 PM

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mapleridge · 11-19-2013, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Propagator

Ok, so I'm the "original beta tester", and Shiv will be tuning my car this evening. He told me he found the AFR target tables, so let's hope that everything goes well tonight and we will have an OTS map.

great news. Keep up posted.

Propagator · 11-19-2013, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mapleridge

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Originally Posted by Propagator

Ok, so I'm the "original beta tester", and Shiv will be tuning my car this evening. He told me he found the AFR target tables, so let's hope that everything goes well tonight and we will have an OTS map.

great news. Keep up posted.

Well, I'm sitting in the waiting room here at FFTech, and Shiv just told me he is working with AFR targets. It sounds good so far.

Eagle1oh7 · 11-20-2013, 12:54 AM

Alright!

Propagator · 11-20-2013, 01:11 AM

Ok, it seems Shiv made progress, but he will need another session at least. I have to get to work tomorrow, so I can't stick around too late. We will try to do this some time other than weekday nights, but it will likely be after thanksgiving. So those that are interested will have to wait a bit more. In the mean time, let's keep this thread going by showing our interest.

Route 16 · 11-20-2013, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Propagator

Ok, it seems Shiv made progress, but he will need another session at least. I have to get to work tomorrow, so I can't stick around too late. We will try to do this some time other than weekday nights, but it will likely be after thanksgiving. So those that are interested will have to wait a bit more. In the mean time, let's keep this thread going by showing our interest.

Anyone have a 2nd car to loan you?

pfitz911 · 11-20-2013, 04:47 AM

Why don't you get a job at shives work mate? We'll all be winners then big fella!!

Dylanize · 11-20-2013, 09:35 AM

I'm So Excite, Much Want. So Tune.

b-man · 11-20-2013, 09:37 AM

I'm also interested!

OpenFlash · 11-20-2013, 01:38 PM

Hi guys,
Quick update: We got full control over lambda/AFR target. So I'm very happy about that. Now we just have to arrange for some more tuning time to dial everything in. Tuning this engine takes a lot longer than tuning an N54 since you are are trying to gain power through so many different angles (as compared to just turning up the boost and adjusting timing/fuel). So the process is pretty time consuming. But the good news is that the OTS maps will be very well developed

Shiv

Dylanize · 11-20-2013, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Hi guys,
Quick update: We got full control over lambda/AFR target. So I'm very happy about that. Now we just have to arrange for some more tuning time to dial everything in. Tuning this engine takes a lot longer than tuning an N54 since you are are trying to gain power through so many different angles (as compared to just turning up the boost and adjusting timing/fuel). So the process is pretty time consuming. But the good news is that the OTS maps will be very well developed

Shiv

I'm being patient haha! Thanks for all the hard work Shiv!

Eagle1oh7 · 11-20-2013, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Hi guys,
Quick update: We got full control over lambda/AFR target. So I'm very happy about that. Now we just have to arrange for some more tuning time to dial everything in. Tuning this engine takes a lot longer than tuning an N54 since you are are trying to gain power through so many different angles (as compared to just turning up the boost and adjusting timing/fuel). So the process is pretty time consuming. But the good news is that the OTS maps will be very well developed

Shiv

Mike. · 11-20-2013, 03:07 PM

I wonder what the gains are going to look like... maybe 12 hp/15 tq?? close to AA?

AlpineSwift · 11-21-2013, 12:14 AM

Shiv and the mad scientists at Vishnu should easily attain those numbers and possibly more. Transmissions and rwd vs awd will also obviously make a difference in those gains. Glad to see another tune coming to the N52 but I'm still going to hold back until I've switched platforms before I start shopping aftermarket stuff again.

Looking forward to seeing the numbers.

11-21-2013, 12:03 PM

Would like to see dyno results for

Expect
325i Most Gains
328i Good Gains
330i Least Gains

kewlguy210 · 11-21-2013, 08:39 PM

Any updates regarding this tune? I was looking into getting the AA tune but would be interested in this as well.

alexwhittemore · 11-21-2013, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kewlguy210

Any updates regarding this tune? I was looking into getting the AA tune but would be interested in this as well.

There was, literally yesterday morning.

mapleridge · 11-21-2013, 09:46 PM

great work shiv.

Ian0611 · 11-22-2013, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Does anyone in the SF Bay Area have the AA flash? If so, perhaps we can do a comparison test. The difference with this product is that, in addition to providing off-the-shelf (OTS) maps, we would also give you full access to the ROM so you can custom tune if you so desire. Price would be the same as it is for the N54 OpenFlash Tablet ($395).

Shiv

I just bought my 328xi but this is exactly what I am looking for. I'm just coming out of an Evo that I tuned myself with Ecuflash so an OpenFlash Tablet would be perfect for me

AlpineSwift · 11-24-2013, 01:58 AM

Don't expect Evo numbers with the N52, Ian.

Ian0611 · 11-24-2013, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AlpineSwift

Don't expect Evo numbers with the N52, Ian.

Awww c'mon!! A little more boost, some E85... oh wait. Man!! LOL!!

I'm well aware but I'm sure there is room left to grow in the factory tune for more power and better mpg, and I prefer to do the tuning my self rather than pay someone else to do it or just use an OTS tune.

AlpineSwift · 11-25-2013, 02:38 AM

Dunno how much research you've done into this platform but a while back a guy named Gavin from MMW tried to put a Vortech Supercharger on the N52. After a lot of time had passed and what seemed to be a nearly complete project, he went silent and nothing else was posted. Most if not everyone that followed it presumed he blew up which a lot of the N54 guys were assuming would happen. The other issue that comes into play is the transmission. For whatever reason (cost probably being the most obvious) BMW gave the N52 a pretty weak Manual transmission. I think if I remember correctly the max its rated at is something like 350hp. Gavin's goal was to hit 300whp with a possible stage 2 conversion after a reliable setup was reached. Obviously that never happened but it should give you an idea of where we sit in the E90/92 crowd. 3 stage intake manifold, tune, k&n drop in, and exhaust are pretty much the only real power gainers (manifold being the most with a proper tune). Unless you spray it, there really isn't anything else out there for these engines.

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