6MT shift knob - stock vs. m-performance

[rubber_ducky]

Originally Posted by Railgun

Is it ok practice to do it with a DCT?

Beyond not having 2 hands on the wheel, it doesn't matter if your hand is there or not, in particular if you know how to drive.

[Sigh]It does go beyond not having two hands on the wheel. But it isn't worth explaining it to a DCT driver who thinks he "knows how to drive". Use your hand that isn't at 10 or 2 to Google it

[Lynchmob6]

Originally Posted by tareemaa

I made the move with the m performance knob and hand brake combo after seeing this post. I love the look and feel of both pieces.

The knob does sit lower than the stock and that was probably my biggest reason to get it, I am happy with the throw but I always felt the knob say up too high, the shifts feel quick and more direct now. I highly recommend this, I took pics of the two knobs to try to illustrate the difference. It's not perfect but I hope it helps a little.

Looks good!

[rubber_ducky]

Originally Posted by Railgun

I don't drive a DCT...so don't know if that's referring to me or not. Regardless, I was commenting specifically on you referring to manual drivers as opposed to any regardless of transmission choice, but I digress.

Seems that your digressions are causing you to miss the point that it is bad practice to rest your hand on a manual shift lever does go beyond keeping two hands on the wheel and is applicable regardless of whether you "know how to drive" or not.

But in the event that you're curious, i did [incorrectly] assume that you were a DCT driver. You know... the same way that you [incorrectly] assumed that my advice for the OP to not rest his hand on the shift lever was for the purpose of having both hands on the wheel.

[Maxis]

Depends. If the hand is simply resting and not pushing on the lever nothing is gonna wear faster. Pushing the lever past the detents that hold the works in place could cause extra wear.

I just love it when those "WHO DO IT" in forums will always defend their position with NO evidence...so we can easily see those who rest their hands on gear lever... can't we....

It is a very bad habit, not only from a safety point of view, but from Gear Sleeve and Fork wear....which is inside your Transmission.

If you ever saw a shift fork worn down paper thin, or blue from overheating against the slider (Sleeve), then watched the owner drive with his hand on the lever, you wouldn't ever ask this question again. Any extra force is extra load. Extra load is extra wear. Its like riding a motorcycle dragging your shoes on the ground and wondering why your soles are worn off.

[evanescent03]

Originally Posted by Mere

Depends. If the hand is simply resting and not pushing on the lever nothing is gonna wear faster. Pushing the lever past the detents that hold the works in place could cause extra wear.

I just love it when those "WHO DO IT" in forums will always defend their position with NO evidence...so we can easily see those who rest their hands on gear lever... can't we....

It is a very bad habit, not only from a safety point of view, but from Gear Sleeve and Fork wear....which is inside your Transmission.

If you ever saw a shift fork worn down paper thin, or blue from overheating against the slider (Sleeve), then watched the owner drive with his hand on the lever, you wouldn't ever ask this question again. Any extra force is extra load. Extra load is extra wear. Its like riding a motorcycle dragging your shoes on the ground and wondering why your soles are worn off.

good to know ... I've tried to avoid doing it so I can react better in an emergency, despite knowing how to drive

I wonder if this is something that effects newer manuals the same as older? regardless, thanks!

[Who's on first]

Originally Posted by GraphiteBrawler

i wish they made an M Performance unit with that look and stiching, that lit up.

I really like the glow from the shifter at night.

YES!!

[rubber_ducky]

Originally Posted by Mere

Depends. If the hand is simply resting and not pushing on the lever nothing is gonna wear faster. Pushing the lever past the detents that hold the works in place could cause extra wear.

I just love it when those "WHO DO IT" in forums will always defend their position with NO evidence...so we can easily see those who rest their hands on gear lever... can't we....

It is a very bad habit, not only from a safety point of view, but from Gear Sleeve and Fork wear....which is inside your Transmission.

If you ever saw a shift fork worn down paper thin, or blue from overheating against the slider (Sleeve), then watched the owner drive with his hand on the lever, you wouldn't ever ask this question again. Any extra force is extra load. Extra load is extra wear. Its like riding a motorcycle dragging your shoes on the ground and wondering why your soles are worn off.

Your post is somewhat contradictory in that the first paragraph says it's ok to test your hand on the knob, but your last paragraph says that any extra load results in extra wear.

I came across likely the same thread as you before i figured it wasn't worth the effort trying to educate somebody about something they think they already know everything about.

But in the event that anybody else is curious...

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/technical-q-sponsored-algar-ferrari/261182-resting-hand-gear-shift.html

...as mentioned earlier, a Google search will generate lots of reading on the topic

[ryank382]

anybody know if this fits an F80? id assume it does but not 100% sure. seems to be the cheapest route

http://www.amazon.com/BMW-Performanc...rmance+shifter

[boss2k]

Originally Posted by tareemaa

I made the move with the m performance knob and hand brake combo after seeing this post. I love the look and feel of both pieces.

The knob does sit lower than the stock and that was probably my biggest reason to get it, I am happy with the throw but I always felt the knob say up too high, the shifts feel quick and more direct now. I highly recommend this, I took pics of the two knobs to try to illustrate the difference. It's not perfect but I hope it helps a little.

Very nice, from where did you buy the knob and shift boot and what price?

is the m performance knob weighted?

[tareemaa]

Originally Posted by boss2k

Very nice, from where did you buy the knob and shift boot and what price?

is the m performance knob weighted?

I got it from IND during their Labor Day sale so I saved around 60 bucks, give them a shout, I'm sure they'll help you out. Knob is weighted and feels great. After a couple hundred miles of use I have grown to love the knob, the height is better and shifts feel more natural, I can shift much faster than with the stock knob.

[tareemaa]

Originally Posted by ryank382

anybody know if this fits an F80? id assume it does but not 100% sure. seems to be the cheapest route

http://www.amazon.com/BMW-Performanc...rmance+shifter

Yes that will fit, the stitching on the boot is silverstone, if I had a matching interior I would have gone with that. Ideally, I wanted red stitching to match my interior but it's not available so I went with the tricolor.

[Siciliano611]

One day BMW will listen to people in the M community about this who want that knob lighted....

[IM2C]

Originally Posted by tareemaa

I made the move with the m performance knob and hand brake combo after seeing this post. I love the look and feel of both pieces.

The knob does sit lower than the stock and that was probably my biggest reason to get it, I am happy with the throw but I always felt the knob say up too high, the shifts feel quick and more direct now. I highly recommend this, I took pics of the two knobs to try to illustrate the difference. It's not perfect but I hope it helps a little.

Where did you get 2 color stitched boot?

[tareemaa]

Originally Posted by e90im

Where did you get 2 color stitched boot?

It's 3 colors, it is the tri-stitched boot with the three m colors. I bought both pieces from IND.

[Kenyon]

Originally Posted by tareemaa

It's 3 colors, it is the tri-stitched boot with the three m colors. I bought both pieces from IND.

Is this the dark grey alcantara 9002 or black alcantara 9040?

[m3z]

The m performance knob lets my fat ass put the BIG slurpee cup in the cup holder without bumping it for 2-3 and 4-5 shifts (I usually put it in the right holder, left side for coins so I never had that problem going into 1st) only thing that sucks is the m performance knob doesn't have that shiny clear coat to match the interior trim (the parking brake seems to have the shiny clear coat)

[AIRHEIR]

I got the m performance knob but I like the leather boot. How can I change the Alcantra to leather.

[Mandi90TT]

Good question

[AIRHEIR]

People were saying that I should be be able to cut the leather boot and then slide the other shift knob on top

Where do I
Cut? (See pic)

[Jockey]

What? You only have the knob and not the shift boot that comes with it? I didn't think they should just the knob.

[ryank382]

Anybody have a pic of the mperformance knob with the alcantara boot w/ white stitching in a stock sahkir orange interior? Not sure if it's gonna look awkward being the only thing that's alcantara and white stitching inside

[boss2k]

Initial impressions after driving for 30 mins today, knob feels good and throws are bit shorter but expected it to be more short ( i know its not a short shifter). Wish it was bit heavier and thicker.

One observation -- 4th to 3rd feels little stiff otherwise all the gears are very smooth and crisp... will it break in ?