1M with KW's and Deep Concave 20s

[P1]

I like the way they look in the front, but don't like how concave they are in the back.

[1SerieStud]

Originally Posted by ec1c173

not feeling the wheels. maybe it's because the spoke are too thin and make the wheels look like they 20's . it's still cool over all

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Originally Posted by BrokenVert

ehh.

Honestly, I think the 1 series looks a bit silly with anything bigger than an 18"
The car is just too small to have anything bigger. The wheel proportions just dont match up with the proportions of the car.

The wheel arches on this car call for beefier wheels than 18". So though 19"+ wheels may look ridiculous on a 135i because its stance is not as muscular, 19" wheels look outstanding on a 1M. I would say it's the other way around, anything smaller than 19" wouldn't do those fenders any justice.

[BrokenVert]

Am I the only person in the world that thinks a bit of sidewall makes the car better looking?
There is no rubber on those wheels, look at them, they look so wrong on the car. Those wheels belong on a Camaro or something like that, not a 1 series

Originally Posted by 1SerieStud

The wheel arches on this car call for beefier wheels than 18". So though 19"+ wheels may look ridiculous on a 135i because its stance is not as muscular, 19" wheels look outstanding on a 1M. I would say it's the other way around, anything smaller than 19" wouldn't do those fenders any justice.

Also, I noticed something while selecting a picture to prove my tire point. I went my hunch and digitally enhanced the photo by selecting the DNS and going through the boot menu into the Linux MAC security subroutine of the camera. This let me enlarge the photo through osmosis and photosynthesis and the results clearly show the culprit (bad CSI pun)

OP Your front tire is on backwards







Probing further into the mystery....


Your rear tire on that side is also on backwards


I cant see the tread on the other side of the car though...but my guess is that someone put your left side asymmetrics on the right and the right on the left.

Need better photos of the other side to confirm.




Im assuming that you have Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas. They look like that anyway.

This is how theyre supposed to go for a tire on the left side of the car,


See how the asymmetrical tread takes water from the inside of the wheel and ejects it outside? Your wheels are on backwards man, the water is going towards the center of your car. This will lead to instabilities and possible local hydroplaning in the rear as more water is being forced onto your rear tires by the water not properly being ejected from the front.

In all seriousness youre dry handling is going to be crap, and your wet handling may become deadly if you dont fix it. Considering especially that Vredesteins arent know for their outstanding breaking ability to begin with.



You better fix your tire OP, or you may end up backwards into a ditch

:Puts on sunglasses:

[Yes2m3cs]

Not a big fan of 20's on a 1 series but it still looks pretty badass. Props for being different!

[carchrism5]

Originally Posted by BrokenVert

OP Your front tire is on backwards

They are not backwards

[supraking]

Looks kind of silly on the 1M. And what's the point of having a 1M if you're not going to put track wheels/tires on it??

[TEAM SLO]

Don't mind all the negative comments, you can't make everyone happy. Some people will like it, some won't, plain and simple. I was very skeptical when reading the title but after seeing it, I kind of like it. Plus, having experience with wide sized 19's with past cars, the 20" tires are "significantly" cheaper.

The only thing I wouldn't like about running 20" wheels would be the space between the caliper and wheel that you have now. There will be a significant gap unless you go to a BBK.

For a road car, looks great......

As far as the track wheels and taking it to the track comments, tracks aren't for everyone. In fact I would say much less than 0.1% actually even go "participate" in track days. The 1m would definitely be a fun track car, but you aren't going to break any track records with it.

[elanus]

sorry but is ugly... remove the CSL sould be paid with prision...

[fourtailpipes]

the tires aren't mounted backwards, they're just designed inexplicably.

[BrokenVert]

Originally Posted by fourtailpipes

the tires aren't mounted backwards, they're just designed inexplicably.

Agreed. Thats a really stupid design. One side of the car throws water to the other tire, it makes no sense.

That car must be horrid in the rain



Be careful OP, all of that rubbish wet handling could lead to a watery tomb

:Puts on sunglasses:

[fourtailpipes]

Originally Posted by BrokenVert

Agreed. Thats a really stupid design. One side of the car throws water to the other tire, it makes no sense.

That car must be horrid in the rain

i'm sure there's some science, pseudo-science, or voodoo behind the design, but i've never understood why they did it that way. it's like they designed an asymmetrical tire but were too lazy to produce the mirror-image tire for the other side of the car.

to the OP, 20 is too much for my eyes, but i'm sure you love the look, so cheers.

[KingOfJericho]

Seen the car in person a few times and it looks absolutely awesome. The only thing I don't like about the wheels is how much of the light colored inner rim is exposed. The stance is great and it has amazing presence. I love the concavity on the rears.

[mike@Vossen]

The full photo/video shoot was done this weekend so look for it to come later this month!

[UsualSuspect]

Originally Posted by carchrism5

I can't remember off the top of my head but i want to say its a 20x9 et 25 and 20x10.5 et 20. I will double check later and update.

http://www.vossenwheels.com/wheels/vvscv3.aspx

Thanks. So where have you been man? I thought you would have came by the Boston show last weekend? And when you coming back down to hit up some go carting? I got a new suit, gloves and helmet.

So here are a few updated pictures of the car from when I was at the Boston Auto Show. Lowered the car a bit and got people who actually knew what they were doing take some pictures.

Yeah we'll have to set something up. You should sign up for the Tail of the Dragon run we're doing in June. I sent Chase the info. Check it out. I'll come down anytime to race, just let me know.

[BrokenVert]

Originally Posted by fourtailpipes

i'm sure there's some science, pseudo-science, or voodoo behind the design, but i've never understood why they did it that way. it's like they designed an asymmetrical tire but were too lazy to produce the mirror-image tire for the other side of the car.

Ive been dweling on this thought for a week. And I just cant see it. With the geometries different like that the tread will squirm differently in a left hander than a right handers. Especially in the rain.

The car has more grip while turning in one direction than it does while turning in the other. It must make left right transitions really interesting

[mike@Vossen]

The video is ready for viewing

[dcho]

sweet video but don't like the wheels. the only thing cool is how they look like windmill blades in motion

[Garduna]

19s is the perfect size for this car. 20 feels too big. The concave is REALLY great but the rim design is lacking for a sleek car like the 1m