[Clap135]

Dzenno any chance you can confirm the accurate of the stock widebands to your aftermarket unit? I am really curious to see if there is a.difference

[dzenno]

Originally Posted by Clap135

Dzenno any chance you can confirm the accurate of the stock widebands to your aftermarket unit? I am really curious to see if there is a.difference

That's the plan

[Clap135]

Nice. On all my other cars the factory widebands were dead on. The only thing I don't like about this is that Cobb only logs one bank and I don't even know which one it is. I requested the additional bank to be added but I guess they got too busy with the 07 problems.

[bulldog_yyc]

ahhh thats why you wanted to borrow a cobb unit
Hope the Cobb tuning software gets released soon so we can see what your car can really do!

[SennaZ]

Engine is definitely loafing so it's hard to attribute the fbo's or the u/g turbos to the nice looking logs. WGDC also looks quite good. So for not pushing it, balance is very nice.

btw, best looking presentation of logs I have ever seen on this board - most of the time you can't distinguish the colors or read the scales.

[dzenno]

Originally Posted by Clap135

Nice. On all my other cars the factory widebands were dead on. The only thing I don't like about this is that Cobb only logs one bank and I don't even know which one it is. I requested the additional bank to be added but I guess they got too busy with the 07 problems.

I'd like to have both banks logged by AP for sure..

Originally Posted by turkish335

ahhh thats why you wanted to borrow a cobb unit
Hope the Cobb tuning software gets released soon so we can see what your car can really do!

yep yep yeppp

[dzenno]

Originally Posted by SennaZ

Engine is definitely loafing so it's hard to attribute the fbo's or the u/g turbos to the nice looking logs. WGDC also looks quite good. So for not pushing it, balance is very nice.

btw, best looking presentation of logs I have ever seen on this board - most of the time you can't distinguish the colors or read the scales.

Csvgraph ftw!

[themyst]

If I email shiv like ZOMG I HAVE A CHECK ENGINE LIGHT I can see him doing that, the problem is when it is tune related and I have data for him, provide me with an intelligent answer instead of blaming a meth kit for negative timing or boost oscillation.

I can only count the endless number of people who went crazy trying to diagnose misfires by replacing perfectly good hardware.

[Mr. 5]

Did we ever find out whos graphs these were?

[dzenno]

FYI

for those that have cobb, try turning off your traction control and relogging...traction control can introduce throttle closures that otherwise wouldn't have been there...before thinking its tune related, datalog with DTC clicked at least once or fully off..the road you drive on might actually be the reason for your throttle closures

[mithiral67]

Originally Posted by dzenno

well, ok, i give up, its my car and i can't believe how good these logs are...i was so excited and the first guy i sent the logs was none other but clap, my pcv enemy #1

here mr 5

[Mr. 5]

Originally Posted by mithiral67

here mr 5

I saw after I posted. Thanks.
I kind of figured.

[vasillalov]

Originally Posted by dzenno

FYI

for those that have cobb, try turning off your traction control and relogging...traction control can introduce throttle closures that otherwise wouldn't have been there...before thinking its tune related, datalog with DTC clicked at least once or fully off..the road you drive on might actually be the reason for your throttle closures

Will give it a try, although I don't see how the hell I will be getting a throttle closure on 5th gear due to traction control interference!... Besides, the DTC light never comes on. I can tell the difference between DTC slamming the throttle and tune related throttle closure.

Nevertheless, I will give it a try and see if I can get different results. One can never loose hope!

[Alan l.]

You would be able to tell if it was traction related by looking at rpm graph. If its smooth then chances are traction wasn't the culprit. It is however a good idea to have the dtc pressed at least once while doing any type of logging.

[vasillalov]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

You would be able to tell if it was traction related by looking at rpm graph. If its smooth then chances are traction wasn't the culprit.

Good point! I might just have to re-examine all of my logs then and see what's the deal.

Vasil

[mithiral67]

Originally Posted by vasillalov

Will give it a try, although I don't see how the hell I will be getting a throttle closure on 5th gear due to traction control interference!... Besides, the DTC light never comes on. I can tell the difference between DTC slamming the throttle and tune related throttle closure.

Nevertheless, I will give it a try and see if I can get different results. One can never loose hope!

The light doesnt always go off, I periodically chirp my tires in various gears with the light not going off.

Also, the car will at times reduce power in anticipation of traction loss (so the light doesnt go off). All logs should be ran with everything off to ensure all data is tune related.

[vasillalov]

Cool cool! I'll give it a try as soon as the streets dry up.

[dzenno]

guys just try it and/or try to find a nice flat stretch of road to do your pulls, avoid bumps lol

[mithiral67]

Originally Posted by vasillalov

Cool cool! I'll give it a try as soon as the streets dry up.

Vasil, ever take a ride out to the corn fields for some pulls? Better do it soon otherwise the corn gets to high and you have to start watching for deer.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Ya I noticed with traction control on even in 3rd gear the car had throttle closure without traction light blinking.

Soon as I turned it off car took off like no other.

Something fishy going on with road speed sensors with traction control on or something idk

[bulldog_yyc]

Originally Posted by Jeff@topgearsolutions

Ya I noticed with traction control on even in 3rd gear the car had throttle closure without traction light blinking.

Soon as I turned it off car took off like no other.

Something fishy going on with road speed sensors with traction control on or something idk

will have to try this

[dzenno]

Maybe that's what Cobb needs to work out a bit...minimize boost spikes during traction control intervention which would minimize/eliminate throttle closures