17 X5 Build Thread: The Dog Car

[sukhk527]

5/19/2022

Had an oil analysis completed by Blackstone Labs. Honestly couldn't have asked for a better result, huge sigh of relief.

[M302_imola]

Originally Posted by sukhk527

Yep, the shop I want to take it to also did the flexfuel install and sells E98 so I can test both types of fuel on the same day.

Can't wait to see the results!

[sukhk527]

6/2/22

Today was Dyno day! We tested the E50 blend using 3 runs. As you'll see in the graphs, Run 1 was a throwaway because the car was adjusting to the AWD Mustang Dyno. Runs 2 and 3 were VERY consistent and therefore deemed valid.

Because it was an AWD Dyno, even having XDelete enabled disabling XDrive, we still had to put the car in test mode via the gauge cluster.

I'm also told Mustang dyno's read lower than DynoJets and no correction factor was applied other than SAE corrections.

Final numbers were 400WHP/492WTQ. Not bad for a big old pig with an N55.

[jmack123]

Originally Posted by sukhk527

6/2/22

Today was Dyno day! We tested the E50 blend using 3 runs. As you'll see in the graphs, Run 1 was a throwaway because the car was adjusting to the AWD Mustang Dyno. Runs 2 and 3 were VERY consistent and therefore deemed valid.

Because it was an AWD Dyno, even having XDelete enabled disabling XDrive, we still had to put the car in test mode via the gauge cluster.

I'm also told Mustang dyno's read lower than DynoJets and no correction factor was applied other than SAE corrections.

Final numbers were 400WHP/492WTQ. Not bad for a big old pig with an N55.

Damn! 400 WHP is crazy. Any chance you could get a 0-60 time at some point?

[sukhk527]

Originally Posted by jmack123

Damn! 400 WHP is crazy. Any chance you could get a 0-60 time at some point?

I actually did not too long ago , dragy attached !

[jmack123]

Originally Posted by sukhk527

I actually did not too long ago , dragy attached !

Wow. 4 seconds is incredible. Can you share (keep in mind I am a relative lay person when it comes to some of this) exactly what you had to upgrade to accomplish this output? How much concern is there to impact to longevity? Obviously performance and longevity always work antagonistically, but nonetheless.

[Monkeypoop]

Are you creating your own E50 map?

[blackoutF15]

Originally Posted by sukhk527

I actually did not too long ago , dragy attached !

Damn bro jealous

[parthpatel1]

Originally Posted by sukhk527

5/19/2022

Had an oil analysis completed by Blackstone Labs. Honestly couldn't have asked for a better result, huge sigh of relief.

What oil do you usually use? Was this just a preventative measure before adding more hp?

[sukhk527]

Originally Posted by jmack123

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Wow. 4 seconds is incredible. Can you share (keep in mind I am a relative lay person when it comes to some of this) exactly what you had to upgrade to accomplish this output? How much concern is there to impact to longevity? Obviously performance and longevity always work antagonistically, but nonetheless.

I don't mind at all. So modification wise, it's got a VRSF Downpipe and Front Mount Intercooler along with an ER charge pipe for breathing , and then a Dorch Stage 1 HPFP and Zeitronix FlexFuel kit for the fueling side. Ethanol inherently requires 15% more volume compared to regular gasoline so the hpfp upgrade is needed to get enough E for the additional boost.

[sukhk527]

Originally Posted by Monkeypoop

Are you creating your own E50 map?

Nah, leaving that to the pros lol.

[sukhk527]

Originally Posted by parthpatel1

What oil do you usually use? Was this just a preventative measure before adding more hp?

I've been running Motul XCESS 5w-40 now and typically change every 3k miles. This test was two fold:

1) just for my own peace of mind to make sure I didn't need to address anything regarding the rod bearings since we're at 50k miles now.

2) a health check since we've turned it up quite a bit and plan on doing a bit more so in the future.

[Monkeypoop]

Originally Posted by sukhk527

Nah, leaving that to the pros lol.

I was looking at a E85 tune, but not enough gas stations nearby… Have you tried that vs the E50? Also, if you don't mind me asking, who do you have doing the custom tune?

[sukhk527]

Originally Posted by Monkeypoop

I was looking at a E85 tune, but not enough gas stations nearby… Have you tried that vs the E50? Also, if you don't mind me asking, who do you have doing the custom tune?

Since I only have the Dorch Stage 1 HPFP, I'm maxing my E blend at e50 since I would need the Stage 2 to really make use of full e85 due to how much it flows. I could probably taper boost down to run full e85 but what's the fun in that .

A member of our forum made the tune for me! Paging WOT808

[Vivek.]

That's an insane time for an N55 X5. Nice.

[sukhk527]

Originally Posted by Vivek.

That's an insane time for an N55 X5. Nice.

Thanks man! I'm on a quest to break 3's so with a bit more driver mod and some lightweight wheels I think we can get there.

[whoismorggan]

Originally Posted by sukhk527

Since I only have the Dorch Stage 1 HPFP, I'm maxing my E blend at e50 since I would need the Stage 2 to really make use of full e85 due to how much it flows. I could probably taper boost down to run full e85 but what's the fun in that .

A member of our forum made the tune for me! Paging WOT808

What additional parts are needed to run full E85? LPFP? New lines?

[sukhk527]

Originally Posted by hellyesmorgan

What additional parts are needed to run full E85? LPFP? New lines?

I think as long as you have a Dorch Stage 2 hpfp or equivalent you're good to go. Maybe a n20 TMAP sensor. I know that's the setup WOT808 has.

[whoismorggan]

Originally Posted by sukhk527

I think as long as you have a Dorch Stage 2 hpfp or equivalent you're good to go. Maybe a n20 TMAP sensor. I know that's the setup WOT808 has.

I wish it wasn't $1,600. Would be nice to fill up with E85 since it's $2 cheaper than 93 😄

[WOT808]

Originally Posted by sukhk527

I think as long as you have a Dorch Stage 2 hpfp or equivalent you're good to go. Maybe a n20 TMAP sensor. I know that's the setup WOT808 has.

Great results! It's been awesome working with you to get this thing moving good. I'm excited for more results.

You're right, a 'stage 2' hpfp is the best option for full e85 on the stock turbo. You can run full e85 on one of the stage 1 hpfps or even the stock pump but will have to limit boost so that the HPFP pressure doesn't dip low enough to misfire.

The lpfp in EWG cars seem to handle e85 well into the low 400s just fine.

[M302_imola]

Originally Posted by sukhk527

6/2/22

Today was Dyno day! We tested the E50 blend using 3 runs. As you'll see in the graphs, Run 1 was a throwaway because the car was adjusting to the AWD Mustang Dyno. Runs 2 and 3 were VERY consistent and therefore deemed valid.

Because it was an AWD Dyno, even having XDelete enabled disabling XDrive, we still had to put the car in test mode via the gauge cluster.

I'm also told Mustang dyno's read lower than DynoJets and no correction factor was applied other than SAE corrections.

Final numbers were 400WHP/492WTQ. Not bad for a big old pig with an N55.

Almost 500 ft/lbs torque! No wonder your 0-60 times are fast

You make me want to spend more money, therefore I hate you

[blackoutF15]

Originally Posted by M302_imola

Almost 500 ft/lbs torque! No wonder your 0-60 times are fast

You make me want to spend more money, therefore I hate you

I hate all of you