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      07-29-2014, 01:27 PM   #23
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2FB for me too, hate that first wood I am afraid, second much better.

In answer to your question, 19's with adaptive and yes to run flats. Also live in the south of england and zero ride quality issues.

Function over fashion is irrelevant Pete, the 18's are too small for the F10 and 19's have no ride downside, so function and form in one hit - happy days
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      07-29-2014, 01:45 PM   #24
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Looks lovely. I don't think I could buy a 5 that isn't Sophisto now though, but I understand why people like the silver.
Agree. Sophisto Grey is a great colour.
I have had 2 F10 cars, one in Sophisto Grey and the other in Callisto Grey - both wonderful, but decided to switch to a lighter shade this time.
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2FB for me too, hate that first wood I am afraid, second much better.

In answer to your question, 19's with adaptive and yes to run flats. Also live in the south of england and zero ride quality issues.

Function over fashion is irrelevant Pete, the 18's are too small for the F10 and 19's have no ride downside, so function and form in one hit - happy days
Thanks. Mind made up. 2FB and 19"s
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Agree as well, 2FB look the best

On a side note, why don't BMW let you have 20" alloys like Audi do on the black edition? Love the Audi anthracite 20" alloys on the A6 .. spoke to my dealer who said they could order the 20" alloys but the cost was about £3,000 or something ridiculous like that!!
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      07-29-2014, 03:08 PM   #27
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I think the Style 303 20" wheels from the 7 series msport look the part, not sure if they fit a 5 series though. If I'd known about these when I bought mine, I'd have asked. Too expensive to justify now as a one off.
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I have 20'' m sport wheels on mine with m sport suspension, ride isn't too bad either. Better than any previous m sport that I've owned. Cost £4k though...
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I have 20'' m sport wheels on mine with m sport suspension, ride isn't too bad either. Better than any previous m sport that I've owned. Cost £4k though...
Exxxxxxxxxxxxxxxpensive...

... but I'm sure worth every look !
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      07-30-2014, 09:08 AM   #30
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Space Grey as a lovely mix between Sophistico and light silver. I happened on it by chance, as was looking for a black E60, and have bought two now with the F10!!
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Function over fashion is irrelevant Pete, the 18's are too small for the F10 and 19's have no ride downside, so function and form in one hit - happy days
I'm not coming back on this subject to try and influence anyone else, as ride quality is not always easy to quantify. Ride quality is a subjective thing, as we don't all feel the ride frequency the same way.

I can feel the difference, between an 18" and 19" shod 5-series. 19" crash more easily over bad surfaces. I prefer the ride of the 18" in my circumstances, less jittery intrusions to the cabin, even on average road surfaces. I have to say it, but 17" winter wheels are even more comfortable, than the 18". What we'd really expect.

I know if I was running 19" wheels for the looks, I'd be changing tyres to non run-flats (probably Michelin PSS), to keep the finer side of ride quality, (plus consideration for tyre damage). I just don't personally want the hassle of trying to run without run-flats, had enough of that with my E91, trying to get a better ride quality.

Enjoy your 19" wheels, I'll stick with stock OEM rim sizing, which give "me" the 'sweet spot' for ride quality down my local roads.

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Hmmmm -19"s vs 18"s - its not as if the bigguns fill the wheel arches further (same overall diameter wheel/tyre after all) - so what exactly is the attraction of another 0.5 inches of alloy showing all round?

Not to mention the hit on yer RFL!

I'd agree that the 19s on a 530 literally smash over bad surfaces - with M-Sport suspenders at least .... also fiddled with non-RFTs on my E91 and altho a big improvement on 18" wheels, the hassle of puncture impact was a pain ..... not to mention the Dealer adjusting his quote on trade-in as the car thus didnt qualify under the BMW Used Car guarantee checklist - FFS!
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Pete, all good

My E60 19's had non run flats and my F10 19's have run flats, honestly they feel the same. My problem may be that I have an Elise as my fun car, which makes the 5 a limo in comparison.

I love them both in different ways
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Exxxxxxxxxxxxxxxpensive...

... but I'm sure worth every look !
Indeed, but luckily the previous owner paid for them! Came into some cash, bought this car and spent £7k modifying it from BMW and then blew all his cash... Let's say I got a deal on it
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      10-25-2014, 01:08 PM   #35
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You are correct, I rate AD as the best option on my car. I run 18" summer wheels out of choice, "function over fashion" for me. 17" winter wheels, as I'm after the same ride quality in winter when the tyres typically run colder. This definitely works out well for me, no downsides to winter use on RFTs.

I tried AD on an F10 with 19" wheels, I'd say there is only a little difference over 18" wheels, but 18" do give the edge for ride quality over poor surfaces. I understand AD was set up around the OEM fit 18" wheels, so really is the 'sweet spot'. For me no regrets, as I have got what I was after in the F11 wagon, helped a little by the rear self levelling air suspension.

Regarding Adaptive Drive itself, you clearly know the benefits of VDC, but it is the active roll bars (ARS) which is the feature which impresses most. The ability to have a car as big as the 5-series cornering so flat, even in the more comfortable settings. ARS has two base modes, one used for Comfort and Comfort+, a firmer control working in Sport and Sport+. ARS also helps for straight-line ride comfort, as single wheel bumps don't copy across the car. To get such benefits, without any lack of handling ability and body control, is what we really all want from a suspension system.

Adaptive Drive is a brilliant bit of kit, shrinks the 5-series, IMO. The ability to set the modes, widen the driving envelope, without the limiting compromises of a passive suspension system.

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HI,

Just picked my car 2 days back. Have not had much chance to drive it yet.

535D with Adaptive Drive. I had VDC in my previous 535.

Quick question: Are there any user settings for Adaptive Drive.

The only setting I found is the one under Sport Settings to choose either Transmission, Suspension or Both.

Are there any user settings that can be modified for Adaptive Drive. (There was nothing for VDC, so I thought maybe there is more configuration for AD)...
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Are there any user settings that can be modified for Adaptive Drive. (There was nothing for VDC, so I thought maybe there is more configuration for AD)...
No, we still only have the same modes as VDC, with the option (as you say) to check chassis (suspension & steering) or drivetrain (gearbox & throttle), or both.

The two ARS modes I mentioned in the quote are not user selectable.

Tell us what you think of AD, once you have a bit of seat time. I still rate AD in the 535i as one of the best options.

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No, we still only have the same modes as VDC, with the option (as you say) to check chassis (suspension & steering) or drivetrain (gearbox & throttle), or both.

The two ARS modes I mentioned in the quote are not user selectable.

Tell us what you think of AD, once you have a bit of seat time. I still rate AD in the 535i as one of the best options.

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I have only driven it 30 miles yet, but can already feel the difference from my earlier VDC.

The car feels smaller... more compact to drive.

More when I get to take it out a bit...
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Tell us what you think of AD, once you have a bit of seat time. I still rate AD in the 535i as one of the best options.

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Having driven my car 700 miles now.... I can say the AD (Adaptive Drive) option is well worth the money.

I haver had the new F10 without VDC, with VDC and with AD... and the AD is something different - no doubt about the body control and agility it gives over the standard suspension.

Recommend it any day... and wouldn't buy a car without it.
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Having driven my car 700 miles now.... I can say the AD (Adaptive Drive) option is well worth the money.

I haver had the new F10 without VDC, with VDC and with AD... and the AD is something different - no doubt about the body control and agility it gives over the standard suspension.

Recommend it any day... and wouldn't buy a car without it.
Pleased you like AD and appreciate how it improves the 5-series dynamics.

I am still amazed how the F11 works through the 'twisties'. Often forget how big it really is, as with AD it drives more like a 3-series for size, but with much more refinement.

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Pleased you like AD and appreciate how it improves the 5-series dynamics.

I am still amazed how the F11 works through the 'twisties'. Often forget how big it really is, as with AD it drives more like a 3-series for size, but with much more refinement.

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I agree... it almost feels like my E92 3 series Coupe.

What was surprising is that my better half (sitting as a passenger) also commented to me that the new car (with AD) is a lot more 'settled' than the previous one (with VDC) - and she is not a car person at all !

I have to say, AD is quite a revelation. I think I rate AD as a feature higher up than Heads Up Display.
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Settled = "better ride when not cornering" maybe?
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Settled = "better ride when not cornering" maybe?
Certainly settled on straight roads due to the ARBs virtually disconnecting. But it is when AD is cornering that it really excels. Almost denies physics in the way such a large car is so flat in the bends, even on the softer settings.

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Settled = "better ride when not cornering" maybe?
Settled = As in flat in almost all situations including cornering. Highland Pete has explained it well in the above post.
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So with AD, are you aware of every imperfection in the road? or does it smooth that out and provide a softer ride but without the wallow?
On my msport suspension with 19 inch wheels, I am certainly aware of any imperfection in the roads surface and along with tramlining, even the paint on the road markings is obvious!

These posts mean that when I consider my next car (which will be years off at his stage), I'd certainly have a look at AD.
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