128i to 130i GM transmission flash.

[NE_P8riots]

all I can find regarding GM Auto tunes is this from their website:

Automatic Transmission Tunes

On BMWs that came with ZF 6 speed automatics, we have an experimental tune in development for the following TCUs:
GKE191
GKE211
For the 328i, where the engine is upgraded from 328i to 330i specs, you can flash a "3.0si" GA6L-45R transmission tune to better match the engine. At this time, no custom modifications are available.
GM1912

It doesn’t sound promising.
I am awaiting a 125i > 130i tune. Sadly they cant do the gearbox which is disappointing where you can’t downshift into 1st from 2nd unless it is below 2500rpm. Which is absolutely stupid as second gear lacks torque on corners so you need to downshift earlier to make use of the higher revs. I might sound like I am winging but in AUS manuals are rare so we need at least a good sequential option to make the most of this great ‘drivers’ car

[golfer23rm]

is that off bimmerlabs?

[sourworm]

bumping this again, does anyone have advice on how to get this transmission tune to work? is ZB # 7587776 the one to use? The bimmerlabs file also failed for me

[golfer23rm]

have you loaded the file that clears everything? i had to use that to delete before i loaded the 125-130 tune file.

can you please send me the bimmerlabs gearbox tune file.

[Cbeitler12]

Originally Posted by sourworm

bumping this again, does anyone have advice on how to get this transmission tune to work? is ZB # 7587776 the one to use? The bimmerlabs file also failed for me

Okay gonna out in my two cents of what I've been able to gather. The X3 3.0si gm transmission isn't the same as all the gm transmissions put into bmws. Yes they were all GM ga6l45r but their were multiple variations ie, AWD and RWD variants. To no avail of endless searching even finding RWD X3's bimmerlabs has taken the file down. None of us need the file as it's as simple as finding the correct ZB #. The issue lies within the transmission module in each variant. ZB 7587776 wouldn't allow me to move out of park for example but I know for certain I've got the ga6l45r. Unless we can start to dig up and make the variants of these transmissions none of us will ever know for certain which cars are able to be programmed or not. I've tried every ZB # you can find out there and have spent countless hours putting in hundreds of VINs from 3.0si's on bimmerlabs to conclude this unfortunate reality. OP I'm curious if your 328i you made the video on was AWD, you may have mentioned it. The only thing I can think of is comparing the exact Serial or product numbers imprinted on the trans whichever it is. Any ideas I'm definitely open for them because I'm about to try to figure out transmission coding for this alone.

[Dr_BK]

I have spent the better half of the week trying to figure it out myself. The 7587776 doesn't work for me. It gives me errors. Moreover my current zb is the latest but after the 330i tune, i can feel some jerkiness from the transmission. So I am open to figuring this out. I'm even considering swapping my tranny for the zf

[Blau]

Originally Posted by Dr_BK

I have spent the better half of the week trying to figure it out myself. The 7587776 doesn't work for me. It gives me errors. Moreover my current zb is the latest but after the 330i tune, i can feel some jerkiness from the transmission. So I am open to figuring this out. I'm even considering swapping my tranny for the zf

Simpler solution: flash back to stock and get a pedal tuner. Run the car in sport mode as well. It'll kill the dead spot. Car might be jerky, but that might be better than a dead spot when shifting.

As for bimmerlabs stuff - support is likely dead. I've emailed hassmachine a million times. I've mentioned that we could collect money as a group for him to offer an n51 tune. Many have emailed regarding the auto trans tune. I think he's moved on. Can't blame him, he got the ball rolling and he did it for free. I wish I had the technical knowledge to take the reigns and keep it going.

[Cbeitler12]

Originally Posted by Dr_BK

I have spent the better half of the week trying to figure it out myself. The 7587776 doesn't work for me. It gives me errors. Moreover my current zb is the latest but after the 330i tune, i can feel some jerkiness from the transmission. So I am open to figuring this out. I'm even considering swapping my tranny for the zf

I'm on the same boat. Here is the Trans wiki show models and years it was used on.GM6L50 Wikipedia I'm gonna use ista and read the hardware number to post if we can compare. I'm gonna check X3's and any 330i's with the GM trans for Hardware numbers. Aside from just sitting there for hours and trying individual ZB numbers that's my best plan of action until I can learn more on the technical aspect.

[Cbeitler12]

I've got it all figured out ladies and gentleman. After hours down the rabbit hole I started to open each individual .0da file in the SP-Daten data folder. Most are actually labeled what vehicle they're for. I've found the two original 130i and 330i GM transmission ZB numbers. This is only going to pertain to RWD variants, any AWD have issues finding theirs lmk and I can help. For the E8x N52B30O1 ECE+RWD (Euro Spec as US never saw 130i's) ZB 7614241. For the E9x N52B30O1 RWD is ZB 7620353. Their could be more up to date variants but these were the most recent labeled examples I could find. As for the most up to date stock E82 ZB#7614258. This is for a bone stock 128i without the 3IM as its calibrated for the N52B30U1 engine tune. I wish someone could link another post with this information because I searched everywhere to no avail. I have yet to personally flash my EGS GM1912 yet but will first thing in the morning. Look forward to an update, will verify if 130i ZB# will work on my 128i with GM Trans Part Number: 7614313

Edit: just updated ZB numbers. If anyone had tried previously what was posted and had issues then please attempt new ZB numbers. Issue was when finding details for ZB's in data files the .0DA file names are +1 from the ZB # WinKFP is using when coding. Any questions my inbox is always open!

[golfer23rm]

Originally Posted by Cbeitler12

I've got it all figured out ladies and gentleman. After hours down the rabbit hole I started to open each individual .0da file in the SP-Daten data folder. Most are actually labeled what vehicle they're for. I've found the two original 130i and 330i GM transmission ZB numbers. This is only going to pertain to RWD variants, any AWD have issues finding theirs lmk and I can help. For the E8x N52B30O1 ECE+RWD (Euro Spec as US never saw 130i's) ZB 7614242. For the E9x N52B30O1 RWD is ZB 7620354. Their could be more up to date variants but these were the most recent labeled examples I could find. As for the most up to date stock E82 ZB#7614258. This is for a bone stock 128i without the 3IM as its calibrated for the N52B30U1 engine tune. I wish someone could link another post with this information because I searched everywhere to no avail. I have yet to personally flash my EGS GM1912 yet but will first thing in the morning. Look forward to an update, will verify if 130i ZB# will work on my 128i with GM Trans Part Number: 7614313

Edit: It worked Sport mode is a new beast. It never will know what gear it wants to be in but it's a much smoother experience. Did roughly 50-60 miles on it, didn't do anything except program the new ZB# and cleared codes.

Awesome! thank you sir!

Now i must just figure out how to update it again.....been a while since i played with all the programming stuff.

To confirm: my 125i autobox will then be a 130i autobox to match the 130i engine file?

[Cbeitler12]

Originally Posted by golfer23rm

Awesome! thank you sir!

Now i must just figure out how to update it again.....been a while since i played with all the programming stuff.

To confirm: my 125i autobox will then be a 130i autobox to match the 130i engine file?

As long as you've got the GM rwd trans yes. Bimmergeeks Standard Tools includes WinKFP which is all you need. Start WinKFP, (F1)Select Comfort, (F2) Choose Custom File, ECU family: GM1912, ZB# 7614241, Click Ok, and then click Done. From there press F3 or click Program and let it run. Don't remember the exact amount of time but wasn't more than 5 minutes from what I recall. Recommend clearing reading and clearing any codes using INPA afterwards. I've personally already reset my fluid life and reset adaptations after replacing valvetronic seals and filter. Any issues let me know. Only issue I can see people having is their Hardware number being different and requiring a different ZB#. I'm assuming at this time HW#'s should only differ if its AWD. Let me know how it goes!

[sourworm]

Originally Posted by Cbeitler12

I've got it all figured out ladies and gentleman. After hours down the rabbit hole I started to open each individual .0da file in the SP-Daten data folder. Most are actually labeled what vehicle they're for. I've found the two original 130i and 330i GM transmission ZB numbers. This is only going to pertain to RWD variants, any AWD have issues finding theirs lmk and I can help. For the E8x N52B30O1 ECE+RWD (Euro Spec as US never saw 130i's) ZB 7614242. For the E9x N52B30O1 RWD is ZB 7620354. Their could be more up to date variants but these were the most recent labeled examples I could find. As for the most up to date stock E82 ZB#7614258. This is for a bone stock 128i without the 3IM as its calibrated for the N52B30U1 engine tune. I wish someone could link another post with this information because I searched everywhere to no avail. I have yet to personally flash my EGS GM1912 yet but will first thing in the morning. Look forward to an update, will verify if 130i ZB# will work on my 128i with GM Trans Part Number: 7614313

Edit: It worked Sport mode is a new beast. It never will know what gear it wants to be in but it's a much smoother experience. Did roughly 50-60 miles on it, didn't do anything except program the new ZB# and cleared codes.

I have been digging into this the exact same way and came to the same conclusion. Knew I wasn’t going to be able to sleep without trying it after reading your reply. Just ran that same ZB (7634241) on my 128i and successfully flashed. This ZB 2/2 so far.

Side note, has anyone noticed higher LTFTs from the 130i tune? I’m at roughly 8-15% at idle with mechanic-confirmed no vacuum leaks. Just wondering if it’s tune related, differences between 128i and 130i hardware, or maybe something specific to my car. Don’t know what they looked like pre-tune unfortunately

edit: I put together a reference guide for a couple of the 128i <> 130i quirks if helpful for anyone reading this down the line. might not ever get LTFT down to 0? https://www.1addicts.com/forums/show...3#post30130583

[Dr_BK]

Originally Posted by Cbeitler12

I've got it all figured out ladies and gentleman. After hours down the rabbit hole I started to open each individual .0da file in the SP-Daten data folder. Most are actually labeled what vehicle they're for. I've found the two original 130i and 330i GM transmission ZB numbers. This is only going to pertain to RWD variants, any AWD have issues finding theirs lmk and I can help. For the E8x N52B30O1 ECE+RWD (Euro Spec as US never saw 130i's) ZB 7614242. For the E9x N52B30O1 RWD is ZB 7620354. Their could be more up to date variants but these were the most recent labeled examples I could find. As for the most up to date stock E82 ZB#7614258. This is for a bone stock 128i without the 3IM as its calibrated for the N52B30U1 engine tune. I wish someone could link another post with this information because I searched everywhere to no avail. I have yet to personally flash my EGS GM1912 yet but will first thing in the morning. Look forward to an update, will verify if 130i ZB# will work on my 128i with GM Trans Part Number: 7614313

Edit: It worked Sport mode is a new beast. It never will know what gear it wants to be in but it's a much smoother experience. Did roughly 50-60 miles on it, didn't do anything except program the new ZB# and cleared codes.

Thank you very much for figuring this out. I am away from the car on holidays. I will be back next week and I will try this and revert back.

[Dr_BK]

Originally Posted by Cbeitler12

I've got it all figured out ladies and gentleman. After hours down the rabbit hole I started to open each individual .0da file in the SP-Daten data folder. Most are actually labeled what vehicle they're for. I've found the two original 130i and 330i GM transmission ZB numbers. This is only going to pertain to RWD variants, any AWD have issues finding theirs lmk and I can help. For the E8x N52B30O1 ECE+RWD (Euro Spec as US never saw 130i's) ZB 7614242. For the E9x N52B30O1 RWD is ZB 7620354. Their could be more up to date variants but these were the most recent labeled examples I could find. As for the most up to date stock E82 ZB#7614258. This is for a bone stock 128i without the 3IM as its calibrated for the N52B30U1 engine tune. I wish someone could link another post with this information because I searched everywhere to no avail. I have yet to personally flash my EGS GM1912 yet but will first thing in the morning. Look forward to an update, will verify if 130i ZB# will work on my 128i with GM Trans Part Number: 7614313

Edit: It worked Sport mode is a new beast. It never will know what gear it wants to be in but it's a much smoother experience. Did roughly 50-60 miles on it, didn't do anything except program the new ZB# and cleared codes.

Update: I went through the files. So the ODA for the E9X is 7620354 however, the ZB number is actually 7620353.

Thanks for takins us through the rabbit hole. I will revert on my experience.

[Dr_BK]

Update: I flashed the car with the transmission file and there is a very noticeable kick with the cars response. The transmission and engine seem to have sybchronized really well as the dead spots and jerking are gone.

Once again thanks Cbeitler12, you the man.

[Cbeitler12]

Originally Posted by Dr_BK

Update: I flashed the car with the transmission file and there is a very noticeable kick with the cars response. The transmission and engine seem to have sybchronized really well as the dead spots and jerking are gone.

Once again thanks Cbeitler12, you the man.

So happy to hear it Dr_BK! I just updated my original post so anyone coming across it has no issues, glad you worked out the correct ZB#.

[golfer23rm]

Originally Posted by Cbeitler12

As long as you've got the GM rwd trans yes. Bimmergeeks Standard Tools includes WinKFP which is all you need. Start WinKFP, (F1)Select Comfort, (F2) Choose Custom File, ECU family: GM1912, ZB# 7614241, Click Ok, and then click Done. From there press F3 or click Program and let it run. Don't remember the exact amount of time but wasn't more than 5 minutes from what I recall. Recommend clearing reading and clearing any codes using INPA afterwards. I've personally already reset my fluid life and reset adaptations after replacing valvetronic seals and filter. Any issues let me know. Only issue I can see people having is their Hardware number being different and requiring a different ZB#. I'm assuming at this time HW#'s should only differ if its AWD. Let me know how it goes!

i tried it this morning. inpa connects and clears errors but i got this winKFP:

here you can see i tried with the last version that it picks up for car and the version that is on the car:

[Dr_BK]

From your previous post, I see you have a 125i which tells me your hardware (EGS) is definitely different from ours. I take it you're just trying to flash the transmission?

If so, have your sorry tried doing the 3 stage installation?

[golfer23rm]

Originally Posted by Dr_BK

From your previous post, I see you have a 125i which tells me your hardware (EGS) is definitely different from ours. I take it you're just trying to flash the transmission?

If so, have your sorry tried doing the 3 stage installation?

Hi, the 3 stage has been done. I used the bimmerlabs tune and instructions.

[Dr_BK]

Sorry I'm replying directly, I'm using my phone. What I can see from your images is that the ECU dress has not been set. I believe you said you are able to see both Dots on INPA?

If not open INPA and see if you have both dots. There is also a general consensus not to use any cable to flash the Tranny. So if you have all those dogs and don'ts covered in terms of the cable. We just have to figure out if you actually have the GM tranny because some have said most of the 25s and 30s come with the ZF tranny not the GM.

If you are sure of this, let's just make sure the system sees the ECU first by going through INPA. You can drop me a PM as well.

[golfer23rm]

Originally Posted by Dr_BK

Sorry I'm replying directly, I'm using my phone. What I can see from your images is that the ECU dress has not been set. I believe you said you are able to see both Dots on INPA?

If not open INPA and see if you have both dots. There is also a general consensus not to use any cable to flash the Tranny. So if you have all those dogs and don'ts covered in terms of the cable. We just have to figure out if you actually have the GM tranny because some have said most of the 25s and 30s come with the ZF tranny not the GM.

If you are sure of this, let's just make sure the system sees the ECU first by going through INPA. You can drop me a PM as well.

Thanks dr..... I have taken the car to ZF for an oil change, they first said they could do it, then said no its a GM even when i told them it was a GM Box.
Also, i had both dots on INPA (ON) (ON) and was able to read errors.

im thinking of testing on another laptop. will give it a bash in the week.

[Dr_BK]

That's a good start then. If INPA is showing both DOTS how about you use INPA to read both the UIF and Identification. We can use the information there to now figure this out the challenge is simply the hardware number I'm sure. If you can send those to me. I will try and figure it out over the week.