xDrive for M3/M4

Sumokb · 10-21-2014, 11:49 PM

Wanting an M3 with TB and SO...
But want xDrive
Will this ever happen?
As plan B is the new X6 m50d in SG

sandwi54 · 10-22-2014, 12:22 AM

Doubt if it's ever gonna happen, or at least not for a really long time. BMW's performance technology is RWD based and the xDrive is invented mainly for winter driving. There is little advantage to xDrive on a racetrack except slightly quicker launch.

Maddict3 · 10-22-2014, 12:24 AM

Wont happen..

solstice · 10-22-2014, 12:36 AM

M3 platform no. M5 platform likely.

Lups · 10-22-2014, 12:45 AM

A DCT And an Xdrive. thanks for the nightmares boys.

M3guy3 · 10-22-2014, 02:02 AM

i think a C63 AMG will come with AWD before a M3 does. Audi is AWD, i think Benz will be next.

onlybmw · 10-22-2014, 06:52 AM

Agree. Won't happen. BMW is stubborn like that.

DocWeatherington · 10-22-2014, 07:06 AM

fortressmaximus · 10-22-2014, 07:10 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if at least one of the next m3/m4/m5/m6 has it, particularly considering that BMW just hired the guy from Audi.

BlackCobra08 · 10-22-2014, 07:14 AM

There was an article a while back quoting Albert Bierman regarding xDrive for the F8X platform and the answer is it's never going to happen. AWD is overrated anyways.

SOM3 · 10-22-2014, 07:17 AM

I wouldn't rule it out completely but it won't happen with the F-series model.

However M235 is now available with X-drive so it's not that unreasonable of an idea.

Vectors2final · 10-22-2014, 07:21 AM

I don't think I would want one with AWD.

slalomfever · 10-22-2014, 07:30 AM

Never say never since BMW AG just hired a guy who has worked with Audi for many years.

I hope it doesn't happen.

karussell · 10-22-2014, 07:42 AM

maybe with E-drive hybrid running front wheels. just a wild guess but its happening on all the supercars and that will trickle down.

SuspectisHatless · 10-22-2014, 07:48 AM

This is from May 2014:
"Speaking to Auto Motor und Sport, BMW M GmbH President Friedrich Nitschke said the current model is “suffering” and adding all-wheel drive on the next-generation M5 could be a “solution.” The M boss says that the vehicle was not signed-off on it and further consideration to the additional weight brought on by the xDrive system is needed."

http://groundy.com/t/bmw-m5-xdrive/

btbossman · 10-22-2014, 09:25 AM

Im pretty sure next gen will have a form of x drive for all M cars. About a year ago bmw was talking about a system that would be xdrive until 100mph or so then push all the power to the rear, I guess we shall see, but I think its a great Idea.

Carl L · 10-22-2014, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by btbossman

Im pretty sure next gen will have a form of x drive for all M cars. About a year ago bmw was talking about a system that would be xdrive until 100mph or so then push all the power to the rear, I guess we shall see, but I think its a great Idea.

That kind of system should help with the parasitic loss on the hwy that Audi RSs etc suffer from. Weight would still be an issue, and I'd strongly argue disengaging at 50-60mph would be better than 100mph. Thanks for sharing though, had not heard of this.

myzmak · 10-22-2014, 10:08 AM

Will never happen. AWD just adds weight. For the market they have, it isn't what they are going to offer.

....FWIW, I don't understand the cross-shop with the X6M...but I have some real...uh...issues with that car.

chmura · 10-22-2014, 10:19 AM

This had been discussed before and even the Admin Jason on here said it will not happen.

xdrive = more weight added.

BMW is trying to reduce weight as much as possible on the M3/M4 not add to it.

X2Board · 10-22-2014, 10:19 AM

The X drive system in my X5 M works very well, for a vehicle this size and weight, the M division did a great job in dialing out understeer, and torque vectoring is just magical, when you need to rotate the car via the throttle.

I hope it does not come to the M3/4, as that would take away the driving dynamics that we love about these cars. Ultimately, it will come down to $$, if BMW calculates it would make financial sense to produce it, they will. If that happens, let's hope it would be an option, and not standard equipment.

L3x · 10-22-2014, 01:54 PM

M cars are all about RWD.

This will never happen I hope!

afadeev · 10-22-2014, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sumokb

Wanting an M3 with TB and SO...
But want xDrive
Will this ever happen?
As plan B is the new X6 m50d in SG

Get an S4, or 335ix.

But then again, you are not at all serious, as you site X6 as an "alternative" to M3

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sandwi54 Major 538 Rep 1,201 Posts Drives: G07, F90 Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: California iTrader: (1)	Doubt if it's ever gonna happen, or at least not for a really long time. BMW's performance technology is RWD based and the xDrive is invented mainly for winter driving. There is little advantage to xDrive on a racetrack except slightly quicker launch. __________________ 2022 X7 M50i Phytonic Blue 2019 M5 MBB (wife's DD)
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solstice Major General 5458 Rep 7,037 Posts Drives: 2015 M3 6MT Join Date: May 2013 Location: Seattle iTrader: (0)	M3 platform no. M5 platform likely.
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M3guy3 Captain 131 Rep 690 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: May 2014 Location: Michigan iTrader: (0)	i think a C63 AMG will come with AWD before a M3 does. Audi is AWD, i think Benz will be next.
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onlybmw Enlisted Member 10 Rep 33 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW M3 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Rochester Hills iTrader: (0)	Agree. Won't happen. BMW is stubborn like that.
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fortressmaximus Captain 104 Rep 680 Posts Drives: BSM M4 Join Date: May 2009 Location: South Florida iTrader: (0)	I wouldn't be surprised if at least one of the next m3/m4/m5/m6 has it, particularly considering that BMW just hired the guy from Audi.
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BlackCobra08 King Cobra 108 Rep 450 Posts Drives: incoming GTS 4.0 Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: MN iTrader: (0)	There was an article a while back quoting Albert Bierman regarding xDrive for the F8X platform and the answer is it's never going to happen. AWD is overrated anyways.
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SOM3 Banned 43 Rep 1,147 Posts Drives: SO F80 Join Date: May 2014 Location: Euro iTrader: (0)	I wouldn't rule it out completely but it won't happen with the F-series model. However M235 is now available with X-drive so it's not that unreasonable of an idea.
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Vectors2final Brigadier General 1357 Rep 3,349 Posts Drives: 2018 F80 YMB/SS ZCP Join Date: May 2011 Location: Austin, Tx iTrader: (0)	I don't think I would want one with AWD.
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slalomfever 1097 Rep 2,151 Posts Drives: Nardo Grey F80 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Long Island, NY iTrader: (5)	Never say never since BMW AG just hired a guy who has worked with Audi for many years. I hope it doesn't happen.
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karussell Lieutenant Colonel 355 Rep 1,749 Posts Drives: 4 wheels Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: NorCal iTrader: (1)	maybe with E-drive hybrid running front wheels. just a wild guess but its happening on all the supercars and that will trickle down. __________________ "It gave you amazing satisfaction, but anyone who says he loved it is either a liar or he wasn't going fast enough." - Jackie Stewart on racing at the Nurburgring
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SuspectisHatless Private First Class 52 Rep 158 Posts Drives: 2015 M3 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	This is from May 2014: "Speaking to Auto Motor und Sport, BMW M GmbH President Friedrich Nitschke said the current model is “suffering” and adding all-wheel drive on the next-generation M5 could be a “solution.” The M boss says that the vehicle was not signed-off on it and further consideration to the additional weight brought on by the xDrive system is needed." http://groundy.com/t/bmw-m5-xdrive/
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btbossman Banned 104 Rep 1,715 Posts Drives: 2013 335xi M sport--2014 M6 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Charlotte, NC iTrader: (0)	Im pretty sure next gen will have a form of x drive for all M cars. About a year ago bmw was talking about a system that would be xdrive until 100mph or so then push all the power to the rear, I guess we shall see, but I think its a great Idea.
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chmura Colonel 1558 Rep 2,505 Posts Drives: 2019 M2 Competition Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Orange County, California iTrader: (1)	This had been discussed before and even the Admin Jason on here said it will not happen. xdrive = more weight added. BMW is trying to reduce weight as much as possible on the M3/M4 not add to it. __________________ 2019 M2 Competition- October 2, 2018 ED 2011 BMW M3 Sedan Alpine White Picked up via ED 9/27/2011 & Redelivered 11/23/2011 SOLD
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X2Board Lieutenant Colonel 444 Rep 1,643 Posts Drives: I'm back, bitches! '13 E92 ZCP Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Wake Forest, NC iTrader: (1)	The X drive system in my X5 M works very well, for a vehicle this size and weight, the M division did a great job in dialing out understeer, and torque vectoring is just magical, when you need to rotate the car via the throttle. I hope it does not come to the M3/4, as that would take away the driving dynamics that we love about these cars. Ultimately, it will come down to $$, if BMW calculates it would make financial sense to produce it, they will. If that happens, let's hope it would be an option, and not standard equipment. __________________ 2013 Jerez Black/Black E92 ZCP DCT - I'm back!! 2014 Guards Red 991 C2S 7MT - Gone. 2015 YMB/SS F80 M3 6sp - Gone 2011 Sapphire Black/Black E70 X5 M - Gone. 2010 Jerez Black/Black E90 M3 DCT -Gone-
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10-22-2014, 01:54 PM	#21
L3x Private First Class 36 Rep 116 Posts Drives: M4 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Belgium iTrader: (0)	M cars are all about RWD. This will never happen I hope!
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