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      02-14-2014, 12:21 PM   #1
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I am getting a new car (buy back) and want to put new tires
currently i have Bridgstone and they are good but with 15k miles on them they really suck in snow, has anyone had Continental tires? which ones would you pick?

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I couldn't tell you since your post doesn't explain which Continental tires you're looking at buying.

Besides, I'd avoid all season tires if you can. They aren't particularly good at any sort of terrain. If you have the room and budget for it, I'd just pick up a set of summer tires and winter tires and swap them out as appropriate.
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Bridgestone Potenza RE970AS Pole Position Ultra High Performance All-Season

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Front: 225/40R19
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UTQG: 400 AA APrice: $196.00 (each)
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Rear: 255/35R19
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UTQG: 400 AA APrice: $211.00 (each)
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Add Road Hazard: $77.38
Set of 4: $814.00

Continental ExtremeContact DWS Ultra High Performance All-Season

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Front: 225/40ZR19
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Rear: 255/35ZR19
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Set of 4: $830.00

I am getting a new car (buy back) and want to put new tires
currently i have Bridgstone and they are good but with 15k miles on them they really suck in snow, has anyone had Continental tires? which ones would you pick?
I have the continentals. Don't get them. Way too soft and they tend to drift to the right when driving. I would go with the Michelin ps 3. They are awesome. And better than most summer tires.
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I couldn't tell you since your post doesn't explain which Continental tires you're looking at buying.

Besides, I'd avoid all season tires if you can. They aren't particularly good at any sort of terrain. If you have the room and budget for it, I'd just pick up a set of summer tires and winter tires and swap them out as appropriate.
Continental ExtremeContact DWS Ultra High Performance All-Season

i currently have all seasons and they are not bad, reason i dont have another set is i have no room, due to issues BMW offered buy back so new one is coming in next month, plus don't plan to keep the car for long,
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I have the continentals. Don't get them. Way too soft and they tend to drift to the right when driving. I would go with the Michelin ps 3. They are awesome. And better than most summer tires.
tirerack guy said that for all around conts best, about Michelin they are hearing lots of complaints in cold weather and snow
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Besides, I'd avoid all season tires if you can. They aren't particularly good at any sort of terrain. If you have the room and budget for it, I'd just pick up a set of summer tires and winter tires and swap them out as appropriate.
Going to echo this, all-seasons in your region aren't ideal (if ever). Summers for warm months, winters for cold.
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I am getting a new car (buy back) and want to put new tires. Currently i have Bridgstone and they are good but with 15k miles on them they really suck in snow, has anyone had Continental tires? which ones would you pick?
I strongly recommend buying two sets of tires: a dedicated summer set and a dedicated winter set. Especially if you live in a climate that sees either moderate snowfall or temperatures that consistently dip below 45 degrees Fahrenheit in the winter.

Looks like you're in Chicago so what I said above is especially relevant/applicable for you.

All-season tires are a compromise. Less performance in both the summer and winter.

The "Continental ContiSportContact 5P" tires I am running now have been the best high-performance street tires that I have ever used. As good as or better than Michelin Pilot Super Sports (PSS).

Right now, the 5P and the PSS are two of the best max performance summer tires that money can buy.
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You don't say which Conti but I assume you mean the ExtremeContact DWS since they are in the same price range and always pegged against the Bridgestones that you have.

Let me tell you that I also have the RE970AS with the same staggered config as you and they SUCK in snow big time. I definitely confirm your impression. They are decent in the dry though and you get nice sharp handling.

I've heard the DWS had a much better snow performance but they are a little less sharp on the handling side. Makes sense...

If I did have a choice when I bought my tires I would have gone DWS. Unfortunately I had to get Bridgestones because of a special deal I had with them.

As far as winter tires: no way. I actually have 2 separate sets of wheels (3 season set on summers + winter set on all seasons) and I have tried the Blizzaks LM-60 (high perf version) for hundreds of miles on my own car and they are really, really bad handling-wise. I mean I was so disappointed in their handling on dry terrain that I had to return them and got the 970 instead. The Blizzaks were like driving a barge. No response time, dangerous cornering, braking, etc. Even going on a straight line you would feel the rear end of the car going left and right.

I know that this winter is harsher and more snowy than any winters these past 10 years, but our average winter in Philly only has a few snow days and I can't see myself cursing at my tires the other 99% of the time, and feeling generally miserable with my BMW in the winter. So I say, all-seasons for winter but get some decent ones like the DWS for the occasional snow. Now you're in Chicago so your average winter may see more snow than ours.
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I strongly recommend buying two sets of tires: a dedicated summer set and a dedicated winter set. Especially if you live in a climate that sees either moderate snowfall or temperatures that consistently dip below 45 degrees Fahrenheit in the winter.

Looks like you're in Chicago so what I said above is especially relevant/applicable for you.

All-season tires are a compromise. Less performance in both the summer and winter.

The "Continental ContiSportContact 5P" tires I am running now have been the best high-performance street tires that I have ever used. As good as or better than Michelin Pilot Super Sports (PSS).

Right now, the 5P and the PSS are two of the best max performance summer tires that money can buy.
i agree with you, if i had an m3 or like the beast you have i would definitely have a separate set but with 335 its not that much hp ,and i feel like i am sacrificing very little performance, i drive it hard but i don't make 60 mph turns, also don't track the car
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this is the first winter in past 10 yrs that we had more than 10 days of snow, usually within hours streets are cleaned
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I strongly recommend buying two sets of tires: a dedicated summer set and a dedicated winter set. Especially if you live in a climate that sees either moderate snowfall or temperatures that consistently dip below 45 degrees Fahrenheit in the winter.

Looks like you're in Chicago so what I said above is especially relevant/applicable for you.

All-season tires are a compromise. Less performance in both the summer and winter.

The "Continental ContiSportContact 5P" tires I am running now have been the best high-performance street tires that I have ever used. As good as or better than Michelin Pilot Super Sports (PSS).

Right now, the 5P and the PSS are two of the best max performance summer tires that money can buy.
I hear you about the summers but, do you not mind the terrible handling of winter tires for the 4 months the temps are below 45? I mean that would be 4 months of misery with winter tires as far as I'm concerned.
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i agree with you, if i had an m3 or like the beast you have i would definitely have a separate set but with 335 its not that much hp ,and i feel like i am sacrificing very little performance, i drive it hard but i don't make 60 mph turns, also don't track the car
If you're okay with sacrificing a bit of performance in both seasons, but still want a solid performer, also check out the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3.

Just curious, have you always been an all-season guy or have you run dedicated winter/summer setups before?
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I couldn't tell you since your post doesn't explain which Continental tires you're looking at buying.

Besides, I'd avoid all season tires if you can. They aren't particularly good at any sort of terrain. If you have the room and budget for it, I'd just pick up a set of summer tires and winter tires and swap them out as appropriate.
Don't get A/S. They are called NO SEASON for a reason. Google search a/s vs winter tires. You will probably be much happier with winter and summer tires especially if you are in rwd. Not really any more dough as its like buying your next set now and both will last twice as long. X drive has nothing to do with it...its about stopping and turning and there is no comparison between a/s and winter tires. Good luck.
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I hear you about the summers but, do you not mind the terrible handling of winter tires for the 4 months the temps are below 45? I mean that would be 4 months of misery with winter tires as far as I'm concerned.
The Bridgestone Blizzak LM-32s I am using now perform exceptionally well in cold, dry conditions. The softer compound utilized by the winter tire is meant/designed to perform well in cold temperatures.

With my setup, the only reason performance is compromised in the winter is because I choose to utilize a narrow, square setup. In the summer I have a staggered setup with 255-section tires in the rear and 235-section tires up front.

In the winter I use 225-section tires all around because the decreased surface area on each corner (and subsequent increase in downward pressure on the snow-covered road surface) greatly improves performance in snow.

The 5Ps turned into hockey pucks in early November. They were useless below 40 degrees, even in dry conditions.
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i agree with you, if i had an m3 or like the beast you have i would definitely have a separate set but with 335 its not that much hp ,and i feel like i am sacrificing very little performance, i drive it hard but i don't make 60 mph turns, also don't track the car
has NOTHING to do with HP. Its about stopping and turning.

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I hear you about the summers but, do you not mind the terrible handling of winter tires for the 4 months the temps are below 45? I mean that would be 4 months of misery with winter tires as far as I'm concerned.
Winter tires are a safety issue. 4 months of misery? If the road and air is cold we have no choice really because winter tires will grab the road way better than a/s. I'm on Dunlop 3D and they are great in snow and pretty good on cold dry roads.
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I have Continental ExtremeContact DWS on my RWD 335i and they're fine in the snow. I've gotten through 4 inches of snow without getting stuck. For people that say A/S tires are crap in the snow...have you actually looked at snow ratings for DWS in Tire Rack? They're very close in snow compared to dedicated performance snow tires.
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All UHP all seasons will suck in the snow. Especially low aspect ratio 19s. Spend the money on a hooptie instead.

And, Tirerack much? Their users surveys are the sh!t.
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has NOTHING to do with HP. Its about stopping and turning.



Winter tires are a safety issue. 4 months of misery? If the road and air is cold we have no choice really because winter tires will grab the road way better than a/s. I'm on Dunlop 3D and they are great in snow and pretty good on cold dry roads.
I have no traction issues with my all seasons in dry cold weather. The LM-60 on the contrary were just not appropriate for spirited driving in the dry cold weather. The drive is too mushy and not confidence inspiring when cornering. I have tried both so I know what I'm talking about... LM-35 might be better, but I would have to try them before I buy them.
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If you're okay with sacrificing a bit of performance in both seasons, but still want a solid performer, also check out the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3.

Just curious, have you always been an all-season guy or have you run dedicated winter/summer setups before?
this is my first car like this, last one was an 2003 explorer which had all seasons
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Continental ExtremeContact DWS Ultra High Performance All-Season

i currently have all seasons and they are not bad, reason i dont have another set is i have no room, due to issues BMW offered buy back so new one is coming in next month, plus don't plan to keep the car for long,
Ah I had them, as far as high performance all seasons go they're one of the better ones out there.

That said, they were awful in the snow.
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Ah I had them, as far as high performance all seasons go they're one of the better ones out there.

That said, they were awful in the snow.
interesting, as when i called tire rack they said they are the best ones in snow out of all hp all seasons
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I'd agree with everyone who advised to run a dedicated set of winter tires for the winter season, especially if you're RWD. I chose Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice WRT's for winter and Conti DWS for the other 3 seasons. Let's not forget that driving style has a lot to do with the way a tire performs. I personally have mixed styles, depends on my mood. I can drive pretty spirited after a couple of redbulls but majority of the time I'm pretty conservative on my daily commute to work. The reason I chose the DWS is because they offer the performance when I want it (obviously can't be compared to dedicated summers) but also offers exceptional tread life over dedicated performance summer tires; functional AND cost effective. Let's face it, the average person wouldn't be making 60 mph turns or weaving in and out of traffic and need superior performance tires. In my opinion, the DWS' offers enough street performance; if you're throwing anything more at a tire than the DWS can handle it should be kept on the track to begin with.
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