E90Post
 


The Tire Rack
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > BMW E90/E92/E93 3-series General Forums > Regional Forums > UK > UK Technical Forum > Blaupunkt Plug'N'Play Amp install.....



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      09-09-2013, 03:04 AM   #463
gIzzE
Major General
gIzzE's Avatar
363
Rep
5,984
Posts

Drives: F11 + 911 C4
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Norfolk, UK.

iTrader: (2)

The harness comes in two parts btw.

The quadlock to iso connector and then a 2m or 5m extension.

So it is going to be quite pricey, I paid £60 for it before, that was why I was so annoyed that the guy at Bluespot wouldnt refund me when he sent me the wrong one.
Ended up costing me £140 with delivery.
Appreciate 0
      09-10-2013, 02:53 PM   #464
demig
Private
United Kingdom
0
Rep
51
Posts

Drives: BMW 420D MSport GC(F36) & Z3
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Northumberland

iTrader: (0)

Had a little bit of interference on the radio again despite the cable reroute. Seems the weather makes it more prone to it. Added a ferrite clamp from rs to the wires and the problem seems completed solved.

Coding to HIFI is causing me some bother though despite the many bits of info around here and on the wider internet. I have added $676 to my VO and have written this to CAS and NFRM and then tried to recode RAD2 (using the latest SPdaten) which doesn't seem to have worked. My car is an 07 so perhaps I need to use an older SPdaten, I know that the radios have changed quite a bit. Any thoughts on this or should I take this over to the coding thread?

Demig

Edit: got it to work, hadn't left the car to sleep for long enough! Also recoding PDC module in expertmode which seems to have increased the volume of the parking sensors although they could still do with being a little louder

Last edited by demig; 09-11-2013 at 06:09 AM..
Appreciate 0
      09-12-2013, 05:33 PM   #465
jammy78
Colonel
126
Rep
2,022
Posts

Drives: F31 335D
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Windsor

iTrader: (21)

My amp has arrived & the harness is coming tomorrow - so I just need to sort out the wiring for the oem under seat subs!

Can someone point me in the right direction to where I can get the correct wires & where it connects to the amp?

This might be a really stupid question - I only want to amp the front speakers... but using the pnp harness, won't it power the front & rear?
Appreciate 0
      09-12-2013, 06:15 PM   #466
gIzzE
Major General
gIzzE's Avatar
363
Rep
5,984
Posts

Drives: F11 + 911 C4
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Norfolk, UK.

iTrader: (2)

What amp? What model?

The harness has a loop so if you don't want to amp the rears just plug the in and out of the rear speaker plugs together. Will make sense when you have the harness.
Appreciate 0
      09-13-2013, 02:00 AM   #467
Court
Private
Court's Avatar
United Kingdom
8
Rep
80
Posts

Drives: F31 2016 335xD (Current)
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Salisbury

iTrader: (0)

Looks as if theres a group of us fitting the old THA-475-PNP then? Got the amps and harness last month, getting the speakers later this month.
Appreciate 0
      09-13-2013, 05:40 AM   #468
jammy78
Colonel
126
Rep
2,022
Posts

Drives: F31 335D
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Windsor

iTrader: (21)

Quote:
Originally Posted by gIzzE View Post
What amp? What model?

The harness has a loop so if you don't want to amp the rears just plug the in and out of the rear speaker plugs together. Will make sense when you have the harness.
It's the 4ch 475pnp!

I hope so, just waiting for it to be delivered!

Still not sure where I connect the subs to this amp.... the rear speaker connection?
Appreciate 0
      09-13-2013, 02:05 PM   #469
Court
Private
Court's Avatar
United Kingdom
8
Rep
80
Posts

Drives: F31 2016 335xD (Current)
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Salisbury

iTrader: (0)

Yes you'll have to split the connector at the sub. So front channels go to the tweeter and mids. The rear channels go to the subs. Someone has posted a DIY with pics how to wire it up.
Appreciate 0
      09-13-2013, 03:21 PM   #470
jammy78
Colonel
126
Rep
2,022
Posts

Drives: F31 335D
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Windsor

iTrader: (21)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Court View Post
Yes you'll have to split the connector at the sub. So front channels go to the tweeter and mids. The rear channels go to the subs. Someone has posted a DIY with pics how to wire it up.
Do you have the link by any chance
Appreciate 0
      09-20-2013, 02:01 PM   #471
jammy78
Colonel
126
Rep
2,022
Posts

Drives: F31 335D
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Windsor

iTrader: (21)

Hi,

How do I only wire it so the amp is only powering the fronts?

Do I plug these 2 into each other?

Appreciate 0
      09-20-2013, 02:48 PM   #472
makkan00
Major General
makkan00's Avatar
United Kingdom
886
Rep
9,097
Posts

Drives: F83 and F36
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Essex

iTrader: (56)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jammy78
Hi,

How do I only wire it so the amp is only powering the fronts?

Do I plug these 2 into each other?

Jammy
I used it long time ago. So can't remember from the top of my head.
But if one is input (toward amplifier) and other is output (toward car), and if these sockets go into each other, then you are basically returning the signals to the back speakers.

However by doing that you will loose the input and out put socket on rear two channels.
How will you connect your under seats?
You will have to customise the harness.
If you go back few pages on this thread, I have edited a photo to show what hack you should do to use the rear channels for under seats.
__________________
F36 Xdrive for her - HUD, park assist, heated steering wheel, rear camera, Apple car play
F36 RWD for him - HK, M sports pack, GTS tail light, Apple car play
Appreciate 0
      09-20-2013, 02:51 PM   #473
gIzzE
Major General
gIzzE's Avatar
363
Rep
5,984
Posts

Drives: F11 + 911 C4
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Norfolk, UK.

iTrader: (2)

If you plug them into each other and nothing into channels 3/4 then channels 1/2 (IE front signal) will come out of channels 3/4 on the amp.

So you're fine.
Appreciate 0
      09-20-2013, 02:53 PM   #474
gIzzE
Major General
gIzzE's Avatar
363
Rep
5,984
Posts

Drives: F11 + 911 C4
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Norfolk, UK.

iTrader: (2)

You then run new cables from the rear channels on the amp to your subs.
Appreciate 0
      09-20-2013, 04:35 PM   #475
jammy78
Colonel
126
Rep
2,022
Posts

Drives: F31 335D
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Windsor

iTrader: (21)

Talking rubbish, found the answers below:

Last edited by jammy78; 09-20-2013 at 06:01 PM..
Appreciate 0
      09-20-2013, 06:00 PM   #476
jammy78
Colonel
126
Rep
2,022
Posts

Drives: F31 335D
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Windsor

iTrader: (21)

After reading the thread again & having the harness next to me... It's making sense now!

So I have to do this:

Quote:
Originally Posted by makkan00 View Post
At the moment your front and rears are amped.
Front through front channels of the amp and rears through the rear channel of the amp. In OEM BMW sound system, front mids / speakers and underseats are connect in parallel, so power is halved. That is what has happened in your car.

What you should do?
1- Run rears through headunit rather amping them.
2- Manage the connections so all 4 channels get the signals from the front of your headunit.
3- Run new wires to your underseats from the amplifier. You will have to cut the wires going to your underseats and connect to these new wirings.

Here is what you should do.
1- Cut those wires and buy bullet connectors to connect these wires to each other. See number 1 in the photo. (connect wires and not connectors). Wires are colour coded, so connect the same colour wires.
2- Remaining portion of the wires on the clip on the left is input to the amplifier for the rear channel (use it for underseats). It should have signals from the front of your headunit.
So using wire tapping connectors, you should tap the wires of connector next to it (which is getting the signals for the front speaker). Once tapped correctly, all 4 channels of the amp will be getting the signals from the front of the HU.
3- Remaining portion of the wires of extreme right should be connected to the new wires going to the under seats.

So in nutshell, you should make sure that ;
- All 4 channels are getting the signals from the front of the head unit.
- Front channels of the amp will be used to power the door speakers (high passed)
- Rear channels of the amp will be used to power the under seats (low passed.


Hope that helps.
I've got a pre lci but I need to check which sub connectors I've got (like Makkan stated earlier)! I think I'll get there!
Appreciate 0
      09-21-2013, 03:21 AM   #477
gIzzE
Major General
gIzzE's Avatar
363
Rep
5,984
Posts

Drives: F11 + 911 C4
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Norfolk, UK.

iTrader: (2)

Aren't you using a 475 amp?

You have 4 channels. Not 4 channels plus sub channels.

You also have a pre lci car, so just disconnect the oem connector from the sub, don't go cutting wires.

Run new cables from your sub to your rear channels on the amp.
Hook the rear in and out connectors into each other and the front connectors into the amp.
Appreciate 0
      10-05-2013, 11:36 AM   #478
de-v8
New Member
0
Rep
11
Posts

Drives: e60
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Edinburgh

iTrader: (0)

I've been reading this thread with interest.

I've an e60 with iDrive and looking to upgrade. Having read this thread I'm thinking that the tha275 with a harness would be enough with an l7 tweeter upgrade. Can I confirm that this would be cool? I'd go for the 475 but fearful of running the extension as I wouldnt want any fixings to come loose. I'm anal about creaks and noises in the car.

I'm totally inept when it comes to car audio so does anyone know someone in Edinburgh that could install this for me?

Cheers!
Appreciate 0
      10-05-2013, 01:59 PM   #479
gIzzE
Major General
gIzzE's Avatar
363
Rep
5,984
Posts

Drives: F11 + 911 C4
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Norfolk, UK.

iTrader: (2)

Not really, you could do with the 475 or 555 so you can drive your mids/tweeters and subs separately.


275 is too much of a compromise, you may as well buy a better 2 channel amp if you're going to go that route.

http://www.pioneer.eu/uk/products/25...D800/page.html

That would be far better.
Appreciate 0
      10-05-2013, 02:19 PM   #480
de-v8
New Member
0
Rep
11
Posts

Drives: e60
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Edinburgh

iTrader: (0)

Compromise in what sense? Will it not give me an improvement? Hope so as I've just bought off eBay. :-(
Appreciate 0
      10-05-2013, 02:55 PM   #481
gIzzE
Major General
gIzzE's Avatar
363
Rep
5,984
Posts

Drives: F11 + 911 C4
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Norfolk, UK.

iTrader: (2)

Well, if you are simply taking the signal from the front channels and amplifying them I think there are far better options.

The 275 amp is doing the same as a £90 Alpine, for £150 you can have a very, very good Pioneer amp.
Appreciate 0
      10-05-2013, 03:00 PM   #482
de-v8
New Member
0
Rep
11
Posts

Drives: e60
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Edinburgh

iTrader: (0)

Will the Pioneer sit in or under glovebox and work with idrive?
Appreciate 0
      10-05-2013, 03:06 PM   #483
gIzzE
Major General
gIzzE's Avatar
363
Rep
5,984
Posts

Drives: F11 + 911 C4
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Norfolk, UK.

iTrader: (2)

It would sit in it I guess.

It is a compact unit.
Appreciate 0
      10-05-2013, 03:46 PM   #484
craig020378
New Member
0
Rep
9
Posts

Drives: E92 coupe 325d msport
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Blackpool

iTrader: (0)

Where can I buy this upgrade in the uk I've looked eveywhere
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
amp, blaupunkt, diy, tha 475


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:05 AM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST