F8X M3/M4 Macht Schnell wheel spacer reference thread

tom @ eas · 03-24-2015, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Zane_Ngo

Looking at djhex36's setup. H&R Supersport springs. 15mm F/R
I would assume 18mm F/R would work, or am I Wrong?
Would i rub? I also have the 18s on H&R Supersports

12mm/15mm is recommend for supersports to prevent any rubbing. 18mm is much too aggressive.

MDIVISION · 03-26-2015, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tom @ eas

12mm/15mm is recommend for supersports to prevent any rubbing. 18mm is much too aggressive.

Does anyone have any rubbing issues with 15/15 and lowered on stock wheels and tires?

tom @ eas · 03-26-2015, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MDIVISION

Does anyone have any rubbing issues with 15/15 and lowered on stock wheels and tires?

Hard to gauge as it depends on a number of factors:

- Road conditions
- Driving habits
- Single vs passengers
- Suspension type (springs vs coilovers, manufacturer's differences)

You should be fine, but just keep in mind there might be a slight bit of running on extreme cornering/bumps depending on variables.

MDIVISION · 03-26-2015, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Quote:

Originally Posted by MDIVISION

Does anyone have any rubbing issues with 15/15 and lowered on stock wheels and tires?

Hard to gauge as it depends on a number of factors:

- Road conditions
- Driving habits
- Single vs passengers
- Suspension type (springs vs coilovers, manufacturer's differences)

You should be fine, but just keep in mind there might be a slight bit of running on extreme cornering/bumps depending on variables.

As you mentioned i think 15F 12R is perfect then
Looks and performance wise

-JLT- · 03-26-2015, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MDIVISION

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

12mm/15mm is recommend for supersports to prevent any rubbing. 18mm is much too aggressive.

Does anyone have any rubbing issues with 15/15 and lowered on stock wheels and tires?

I'm on H&R sport springs and 20f/18r with no rubbing. Hope that helps.

Rain49king · 03-26-2015, 07:03 PM

I just did H&R sport springs 15mm spacers all the way around no rubbing and ride is good.

http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/an...za2/slideshow/

3er · 03-26-2015, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain49king

I just did H&R sport springs 15mm spacers all the way around no rubbing and ride is good.

http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/an...za2/slideshow/

Looks really slick! I noticed that your exhaust tips aren't installed - are you painting them?

Rain49king · 03-26-2015, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 3er

Looks really slick! I noticed that your exhaust tips aren't installed - are you painting them?

Yes I am

Viking123 · 03-29-2015, 05:03 PM

I finally installed spacers on mine... 15(f)/12(r). The stance is now nice and aggressive. That being said, I wish that I had gone with 12 all around, the front is a bit too aggressive for my liking.

Dimov777 · 04-01-2015, 10:42 AM

Hi guys I am looking to get spacers for my M4. What size should I get?
Stock wheels
275 35 19
295 35 19
Thanks

MDIVISION · 04-02-2015, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Viking123

I finally installed spacers on mine... 15(f)/12(r). The stance is now nice and aggressive. That being said, I wish that I had gone with 12 all around, the front is a bit too aggressive for my liking.

So they suggest 12r and 15f.
I was thinking 12 all around as well

MDIVISION · 04-02-2015, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Year/model BMW
2015 M3

Wheels/offset
Front: (ie: 19 x 9.0 Style 437M, ET29)
Rear: (ie: 19 x 10.0 Style 437M, ET40)

Tire size
Front: Michelin Pilot Super Sport 255/35-19
Rear: Michelin Pilot Super Sport 275/35-19

Suspension
Adaptive M Suspension, Stock springs

Spacer size
Front: 12mm
Rear: 15mm

Notes
Opted to replace extended wheel lugs (included) with 90mm Macht Schnell Competition Studs since vehicle will be used on track (frequent wheel changes). Vehicle has optional Carbon Ceramic Brakes, which does not have any variances from non-equipped F8X models in terms of fitment.

F80 M3 Macht Schnell Spacer & Stud (new stance)

To me that looks more right than 15F 12R

Viking123 · 04-03-2015, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MDIVISION

So they suggest 12r and 15f.
I was thinking 12 all around as well

I also find that the spacers change the steering feel somewhat. It's more firm around neutral/center and there seems to be a bit more feedback to the steering wheel when you hit bumps(?). So if you're debating between two sizes I'd recommend choosing the smaller ones... I'm personally going to downgrade my fronts somewhat.

webshellstudios · 04-03-2015, 11:56 AM

Hey all - new to spacers, but just purchasing this kit has all the required studs and lugs I'll need right?

http://machtschnell.com/competition-...-kit-15mm.html

tom @ eas · 04-03-2015, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by webshellstudios

Hey all - new to spacers, but just purchasing this kit has all the required studs and lugs I'll need right?

http://machtschnell.com/competition-...-kit-15mm.html

Extended lugs are included, stud conversion isn't needed. The kit includes everything needed for the job.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MDIVISION

To me that looks more right than 15F 12R

Keep in mind that Mineral White M3 isn't lowered, in which you can get a bit more aggressive.

MDIVISION · 04-05-2015, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pigwet

Year/model BMW
2015 M3

Wheels/offset
Front: (ie: 19 x 9.0 Style 437M, ET29)
Rear: (ie: 19 x 10.0 Style 437M, ET40)

Tire size
Front: Michelin Pilot Super Sport 255/35-19
Rear: Michelin Pilot Super Sport 275/35-19

Suspension
Adaptive M Suspension, Stock springs

Spacer size
Front: 12mm
Rear: 12mm

That's perfect.12/12. That's my final decision

Viking123 · 04-07-2015, 11:55 AM

Has anyone experienced any issues with 10mm Macht Schnell spacers on the fronts?

I've read that the hub lip can protrude more than 10mm and as a result it may not sit flush.

M3 GT4 · 04-08-2015, 04:30 PM

The F82 m4 drooping/sagging front nose ahead of the front axle is accentuated even more with lower stance as seen on this picture. It just doesn't look good both stock or on coilovers. It's kind of funny the end front facia is so flat but the fender and hood curves down toward the front like a drooping sausage or sagging belly. Lol. ugly car.

mihirdharkar · 04-10-2015, 12:20 AM

I just got 15mm front and 12mm rear installed and the car started pulling a bit to the right after installation at speeds over 65, has this happened to anyone else?

tom @ eas · 04-10-2015, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mihirdharkar

I just got 15mm front and 12mm rear installed and the car started pulling a bit to the right after installation at speeds over 65, has this happened to anyone else?

Break the lugs free and retighten to 105ft. lbs in a star pattern on the front wheels.

cy07 · 04-10-2015, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Break the lugs free and retighten to 105ft. lbs in a star pattern on the front wheels.

Thinking to go with 12 mm front and 15mm rear with stock 19's and height, will that have any issue? Just to double make sure.

tom @ eas · 04-10-2015, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cy07

Thinking to go with 12 mm front and 15mm rear with stock 19's and height, will that have any issue? Just to double make sure.

This combo would be perfect, let me know when ready to get set up!

03-26-2015, 07:03 PM	#182
Rain49king Second Lieutenant 104 Rep 242 Posts Drives: 2015 M4 Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Central florida iTrader: (0)	I just did H&R sport springs 15mm spacers all the way around no rubbing and ride is good. http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/an...za2/slideshow/
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03-29-2015, 05:03 PM	#185
Viking123 Private First Class 44 Rep 189 Posts Drives: 2015 M3 Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	I finally installed spacers on mine... 15(f)/12(r). The stance is now nice and aggressive. That being said, I wish that I had gone with 12 all around, the front is a bit too aggressive for my liking. Attached Images
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04-01-2015, 10:42 AM	#186
Dimov777 Second Lieutenant 23 Rep 199 Posts Drives: BMW ///M3 E-92 DCT F82 M4 DCT Join Date: May 2013 Location: Chicago IL iTrader: (2)	Hi Hi guys I am looking to get spacers for my M4. What size should I get? Stock wheels 275 35 19 295 35 19 Thanks
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04-03-2015, 11:56 AM	#190
webshellstudios Private 19 Rep 51 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW M4 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Washington, DC iTrader: (1)	Hey all - new to spacers, but just purchasing this kit has all the required studs and lugs I'll need right? http://machtschnell.com/competition-...-kit-15mm.html
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04-07-2015, 11:55 AM	#193
Viking123 Private First Class 44 Rep 189 Posts Drives: 2015 M3 Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	Has anyone experienced any issues with 10mm Macht Schnell spacers on the fronts? I've read that the hub lip can protrude more than 10mm and as a result it may not sit flush.
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04-08-2015, 04:30 PM	#194
M3 GT4 Banned 19 Rep 75 Posts Drives: M3 GT4 Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Regensburg Factory iTrader: (0)	The F82 m4 drooping/sagging front nose ahead of the front axle is accentuated even more with lower stance as seen on this picture. It just doesn't look good both stock or on coilovers. It's kind of funny the end front facia is so flat but the fender and hood curves down toward the front like a drooping sausage or sagging belly. Lol. ugly car.
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mihirdharkar New Member 5 Rep 4 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW M4 F82 Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	I just got 15mm front and 12mm rear installed and the car started pulling a bit to the right after installation at speeds over 65, has this happened to anyone else?
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