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Toyota, Honda or Mazda aren't premium brands at all. Out of the 3, only Toyota is in a relatively healthy state in HK, even so in 2011 it only narrowly beats BMW as the top selling brand due to the Tsunami. Honda & Mazda have gone downhill during the past couple of yrs for a variety of reasons. In Honda's case it's particularly bad due to a poor product mix meaning a confused brand image. |
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Kind of OT but what is the current price per liter or gallon fuel in HK?
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02-20-2012, 03:20 AM | #48 | |
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Diesel is tax-free but currently only one car (Audi Q7 TDI Clean Diesel) is eligible to be registered as a private vehicle. |
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02-20-2012, 03:27 AM | #49 |
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2 bucks per liter? That's indeed expensive. I always thought HK would follow China's low fuel price a bit more. So since you guys comply with EU standards, the government also taxes like the EU does?
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Fuel supply in HK operates in a oligopolistic manner as the market is dominated by the big 3 (ExxonMobil, Shell & Caltex), & all suppliers (big 3 plus the 2 Chinese brands) get their fuel from the same refineries (mostly from Singapore, some from Philippines). The only difference between the brands are the additives used. HK Government is very strict on vehicle emissions standards (e.g. cars registered after 1/6/12 must comply with either EU5 or Japanese JC08), & too strict for diesel private vehicles (i.e. they use the equivalent EU petrol standard rather than the diesel standard). |
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Wow that's not bad for those things =)
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I agree controls should be put in place due to lack of road space, but the controls used are ineffective (e.g. penalty on ownership but not usage). |
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I agree, that is indeed not right. I see the same thing in my old country (the Netherlands), you have to pay there regardless of what mileage you do per year. It would be more fair if those who drive more pay more than those who would have their car on the driveway for 300 days per year
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Now in Shanghai, the price is almost the same as that in Hong Kong while there is government tax in Shanghai (all would say it is inclusive). I am missing driving in Shanghai. Today, HK gas price is US$2.2 per L |
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While as a tax payer, I do want my benefit at least of a reasonable gas price~~~ |
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That would be true in the past, but the recent newer US models are doing alright in the fuel consumption department. The fuel hog Hummer for example, was an exception rather than the rule for US vehicles.
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I don't want my car to be forced upon using low grade PRC petrol. |
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Being long living is no longer good enough. Honda's problem in HK started since the late 90's & Mazda has gone quiet for a few yrs. Mazda will have change of distributorship in a few mths time.
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True, but perception plays the mind. Mind u, quite a lot of the latest engine tech from US were based on original thinking from their European arms. |
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You should see some of the things in their history, ever since 'white man' discovered that place, they have been raped
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i guess I am from Taiwan thus I don't have the prejudice to the mainland products like most Hongkie do. I always go with the best price/quality ratio products. I am using Sinopec alot in HK as it works well with my car + they offer the most discount. |
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