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Another F30 N20 Blown Motor Thread :(
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Longtime lurker on the forums, thought I would share the bad news with everyone. Back in May of 2015, I took ownership of a new to me BMW 328i F30. I have had no issues with the car for 4 Full years! It was my baby and i never beat on it since I have another car to do that in. This car was met to be my daily for many years to come and I was also planning on becoming a loyal BMW customer with hope of getting the wife in a X5 within the next year or so. Well let's jump into the issue that made my week go to hell. Driving to work approx. 55 MPH. I get the low oil pressure light followed by the Drivetrain malfunction light. I pulled over to the side of the road asap and had it towed to BMW. BMW called today, cause of failure was timing chain which then took the whole motor out. They want $11,000 to replace the motor...... I am super frustrated since I am a year out warranty and currently sit at 107,000 miles. There were absolutely no warning signs which makes me even more upset. As I said i don't beat on the car, i coded it to jump into eco-mode at all times. It rarely comes out of eco-mode and was never modified or tuned.... Other issue, I still owe $9,000 and was planning to either trade in this month for a new BMW or pay off in full due to balloon financing. Still trying to weight in on what to do here. I do have a case in with BMW USA right now, but highly doubt they are going to cover anything. What pisses me off is that the failure occurred because of the timing chain issue that had an extended warranty. So currently shit out of luck and kind of stuck in a huge predicament. I babied this car and always serviced it on time. Timing chains shouldn't go like that ever..... I will keep you all updated, but as of right now. Pretty upset BMW owner. And I understand BMW doesn't owe me anything, but this is some screwed up situation.. Especially since there was an extended warranty for this. EDIT: BMW USA already got back to me, their not going to cover the car at all. EDIT #2: If you are reading this and you own a 2012-early 2015 N20. I would strongly recommend spending the money to have the new timing chain and guard put in, or trade it in now. I had no warning signs. Edit #3: Was able to source a 2016 N20 Motor. It is going in this week. Hope this problem has been dealt with and the car will last another 5 years now hahahahaha. Edit #4: If you have had a timing chain failure: Report it to NHTSA! the more reports they receive the better chance for a recall! This also helps aid in the legitimacy of the Class action suite! It took me 5 mins to do!https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/VehicleComplaint/ Last edited by MyEvo8u; 06-11-2019 at 09:29 AM.. |
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05-16-2019, 11:22 AM | #2 |
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sigh, I'm in the same boat as you, going to have nightmares now, I baby my N20 428i, best 94 octane gas, best LL-01 oil, best everything. Also coded to start in eco pro with auto S/S off. I hope BMW compensates something for you because it's a known issue.
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05-16-2019, 11:38 AM | #3 |
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Thanks for sharing this and I hope BMW does something for ya man; this only makes me wonder if you would've been okay in the end if you abused it as it "may" have failed earlier :/ I might have to use and abuse my N26 now until she blows
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They fixed the timing chain issue by 2015, so you'll just abuse and break something else thats not covered
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I am just completely lost for words. Good luck with yours man! I always lived by that saying maintenance & not beating on your car all the time is key for a long living motor hahaha. |
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Yeah right! I have been joking with my buddies. I should beat the balls out of this thing. It's funny though, you run into people who haven't had an oil change for 2 years and they beat the balls out of their car regularly and it still runs solid. Guess I was just one of the few unlucky ones
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new used engine can be had for around 2k$, plus labor to install another 2k? just an alternative to 11k that the stealership wants lol.
I'm nearing the 70k miles and sweating bullets lol. |
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by the way, don't get your wife the X5, that car is a worse money pit lol. For BMWs, I would only stick to 2/3/4 series as these are the "most" reliable models (by most I mean tolerable money pits). Anything else it's better to get another brand, like Lexus. I had an E60, E90, E92, now F32. The only model I regret getting was the E60.
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Now THAT would be MY LUCK!!!!
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You said you used ECO pro mode alot. Which means you also used Auto Start Stop. Auto Start Stop is VERY hard on the timing chain of the engine. I think this was a contributing factor to your engine failure.
I coded auto start stop off a week after owning the car and have never used it since. Also in my belief is that ECO pro mode can lug the engine by trying to always keep the RPMs low. |
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Just an update, BMW USA followed up stating due to my mileage they will not cover anything on the repair. Unfortunately, I am not going to put 8 grand into a car that is 6 years old.
Absolutely insane that this is a known issue and only effect certain cars same exact failure. I know many people have wonderful experiences with BMW, but this will prob be the first and the last unless the dealer can work something out which is highly unlikely. |
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Did you use auto start/stop frequently?
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I have GEICO's mechanical breakdown insurance to carry me through seven years, 100K miles. But even that wouldn't have helped you as you have exceeded 100K miles.
It is very unfortunate and I feel for you but with more than 100K miles, you can't expect BMW to cover the replacement. Especially since you didn't buy it from BMW but bought it used. |
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