[HP Autosport]

GIAC software is now available for the BMW models equipped with high output N20 and N26 2.0L Turbocharged engines. This software calibration accommodates 91-93 octane fuel, as well as the factory exhaust and intake system. While retaining smooth drivability, the program offers dramatic and consistent power improvements throughout the entire power band over the OEM software. On 91 octane fuel, gains are as high as 47 wheel HP and 64 ft. / lbs. wheel torque in some areas of the power band. Peak gains are 32 horsepower and 59 ft. /lbs. of torque at four wheels over stock, on 91 octane fuel.

Notable features include the following:
properly recalibrated air/fuel ratios
improved throttle response for a drive-by-cable system feel
optimized torque control for smoother, faster shifting
smoothed power curve for greater linear acceleration
The new high security DME Bosch MEVD17.2.X of the F-series BMW Turbo equipped models prompted GIAC's development of an entirely new proprietary flashing protocol for this product line, requiring ECUs to be bench flashed at an authorized GIAC software installer. MSRP for the software is $xxx(please contact your GIAC dealer) USD (does not include taxes or installation fees). Contact your local GIAC dealer for additional information and final pricing.

Engine platforms to be supported:
N26B20 (stock: 241 hp, 258 ft. /lbs.) [U.S. models, available now]
N20B20 (stock: 154 – 241 hp, 177 – 258 ft. /lbs.) [Int'l 241 hp version supported currently]
N20B16 (stock: 168 hp, 184 ft. /lbs.) [In development]
Dynamometer test results from an MD-500 Mustang dyno are included here. The graph plots power tests (wheel HP and TQ) for a 2014 F30 BMW 328i Steptronic. The red line denotes a completely stock 328i Steptronic with OEM software, exhaust, intake and intercooler, on 91 octane. The blue and green lines denote two different runs for the same 328i Steptronic with GIAC 91 octane software, OEM exhaust, OEM intake and OEM charge cooler, also on 91 octane.

2014 F30 BMW 328i Steptronic Raw All Wheel Horsepower: Stock vs. Stage 1 91 octane pump


2014 F30 BMW 328i Steptronic Raw Power Gains Over Stock: Stock vs. Stage 1 91 octane pump


2014 F30 BMW 328i Steptronic Crank Horsepower: Stock vs. Stage 1 91 octane pump

[HP Autosport]

Dyno graphs posted

[jamoka3]

Interesting...
Whats the installation process?
ECU removal and send to you for remap? Or through OBD2?
and what about cost?

[WV328]

^^Everything he just said

[HP Autosport]

Originally Posted by jamoka3

Interesting...
Whats the installation process?
ECU removal and send to you for remap? Or through OBD2?
and what about cost?

Bench flashed as stated in post#1

Please PM for price or go here as this is a information only thread and posting prices from vendors are strictly prohibited:

http://www.hpashop.com/GIAC-Software...?categoryId=-1

[mookie45]

Will there be something available for n55 engine?

[HP Autosport]

Originally Posted by mookie45

Will there be something available for n55 engine?

Yes, GIAC just flashed one.

BMW M235 Chassis MEVD17xx Flash.



[CAR MAKE]: --- BMW®
[YEAR]: --- 2015
[PLATFORM]: --- BMW M235 Chassis MEVD17xx
[ECU NUMBER]: --- SW7540108
[FILE NAME(S)]: --- 0170377283_7540108_M235_gl01_0170377283_.7z

[LAST UPDATE]: --- 04.05.16
[BILLING CODE]: --- 55Agcb
[MSRP]: --- $800

[FLASH LOADED]: --- Bench flashed New VAG BMW suite with logger.
[OCTANE TYPE]: --- Premium Gasoline
[CHIP OPTION TYPE]: --- Gen 1 - A
[AVAILABLE MODES]: --- Pump only
[HORSE POWER GAIN]: --- 20-45 hp
[TORQUE GAIN]: --- 30-60 ft-lbs
[REV LIMITER]: --- NA
[SPEED LIMITER]: --- Removed

[FSociety]

Originally Posted by HP Autosport

Yes, GIAC just flashed one.

BMW M235 Chassis MEVD17xx Flash.



[CAR MAKE]: --- BMW®
[YEAR]: --- 2015
[PLATFORM]: --- BMW M235 Chassis MEVD17xx
[ECU NUMBER]: --- SW7540108
[FILE NAME(S)]: --- 0170377283_7540108_M235_gl01_0170377283_.7z

[LAST UPDATE]: --- 04.05.16
[BILLING CODE]: --- 55Agcb
[MSRP]: --- $800

[FLASH LOADED]: --- Bench flashed New VAG BMW suite with logger.
[OCTANE TYPE]: --- Premium Gasoline
[CHIP OPTION TYPE]: --- Gen 1 - A
[AVAILABLE MODES]: --- Pump only
[HORSE POWER GAIN]: --- 20-45 hp
[TORQUE GAIN]: --- 30-60 ft-lbs
[REV LIMITER]: --- NA
[SPEED LIMITER]: --- Removed

What does the line BMW Suite with logger means?
"Logger" ?

These bench/flash test were only tested on 91 octane Correct?
I see it says "Pump Only" so it means it won't be tuned for those who use E30 blend + 93octane ?
So for us on 93 octane ? or some that use occasional 100 octane ?

[HP Autosport]

Originally Posted by ROBNYC

What does the line BMW Suite with logger means?
"Logger" ?

These bench/flash test were only tested on 91 octane Correct?
I see it says "Pump Only" so it means it won't be tuned for those who use E30 blend + 93octane ?
So for us on 93 octane ? or some that use occasional 100 octane ?

None of those means anything to the enduser.

91 or 93 depending on where you are located.

Race gas file not available yet.

[FSociety]

Originally Posted by HP Autosport

None of those means anything to the enduser.

91 or 93 depending on where you are located.

Race gas file not available yet.

Well the Dynograph posted up there shows "Race" but is displaying same power as tuned one.

Also, from the GIAC site the list for GIAC Dealers is not accurate or database not working correctly since its also showing actual car dealerships under the list and I'm sure they wont be tuning BMW in a Audi Dealership ?

Would be nice to see the same car stock and GIAC tuned with 93 octane

Thanks

[HP Autosport]

Originally Posted by ROBNYC

Well the Dynograph posted up there shows "Race" but is displaying same power as tuned one.

Also, from the GIAC site the list for GIAC Dealers is not accurate or database not working correctly since its also showing actual car dealerships under the list and I'm sure they wont be tuning BMW in a Audi Dealership ?

Would be nice to see the same car stock and GIAC tuned with 93 octane

Thanks

It is still showing 91 octane so it is not a race file.

The delta is likely the same as the base run is on 93 and so will the performance flash.

No, not typically. Most independent tuners will flash all that is available from GIAC.

[FSociety]

Well still looks better than Dinan and cost less lol, but GIAC is only offering stage1 what about when stage2 becomes available ?

Will stage1 have Cat-Cel-Delete for those who are currently running catless downpipes?

[bateau]

What physical alterations are made to the ECU in order to bench flash? There's been a lot of talk recently of tuners drilling or pouring epoxy.

[FSociety]

Originally Posted by bateau

What physical alterations are made to the ECU in order to bench flash? There's been a lot of talk recently of tuners drilling or pouring epoxy.

They either drill it or separate it, ronanz cryptocar dd1981 Luminous Stubok can share some insight on the preferred method and why ARC550 ocN55 Bmw doubles MissionPerformance

Also the BIG question is, that I saw on the F80 thread was HP Autosport does GIAC need to bench flash for update/revision or flashing back to stock or is it done thru OBD2 after initial bench flash ?

Because I guarantee no one will bench flash you back to stock for free,
but obd2 (5mins) will be able to update, revision 2, or flash back to stock at no extra cost (my local tuner has been doing the latter) among a few not many here in the states.

[HP Autosport]

Originally Posted by ROBNYC

They either drill it or separate it, ronanz cryptocar dd1981 Luminous Stubok can share some insight on the preferred method and why ARC550 ocN55 Bmw doubles MissionPerformance

Also the BIG question is, that I saw on the F80 thread was HP Autosport does GIAC need to bench flash for update/revision or flashing back to stock or is it done thru OBD2 after initial bench flash ?

Because I guarantee no one will bench flash you back to stock for free,
but obd2 (5mins) will be able to update, revision 2, or flash back to stock at no extra cost (my local tuner has been doing the latter) among a few not many here in the states.

It's bench flash either way. Only the dealer is capable of flashing through the OBD2. Realistically, how often do you really remove all the mods when going to the dealer? As many Audi/VW/Porsche/BMW GIAC flashes we have done we have yet to flash a customer back to stock just so he can take the car to dealer for service. That said, when there is a catastrophic engine failure with warranty involved, it would be a good idea to remove any mods, not just the flash, from the vehicle.

No, it's not likely free(that is up to your local GIAC dealer) as there is labor involved, not just a plug-in and download(even this involves a flat rate charge of 1/2 to 1 hour of labor time).

[MissionPerformance]

Originally Posted by ROBNYC

They either drill it or separate it, ronanz cryptocar dd1981 Luminous Stubok can share some insight on the preferred method and why ARC550 ocN55 Bmw doubles MissionPerformance

Also the BIG question is, that I saw on the F80 thread was HP Autosport does GIAC need to bench flash for update/revision or flashing back to stock or is it done thru OBD2 after initial bench flash ?

Because I guarantee no one will bench flash you back to stock for free,
but obd2 (5mins) will be able to update, revision 2, or flash back to stock at no extra cost (my local tuner has been doing the latter) among a few not many here in the states.

That is a really good point. Just like ROBNYC said, having ability of doing OBD2 flashing to stock or revision is a big game changer. That is something we have waited to perfect before we came to the forums as vendors and after initial bench flash, we can do everything remotely over OBD. If you have a warranty concern and need to go back to the dealer, its very important to have your car flashed back to stock. How many people want to remove the computer and go somewhere to get it flashed again when their is an OBD option available?

[ocN55]

Originally Posted by HP Autosport

It's bench flash either way. Only the dealer is capable of flashing through the OBD2. Realistically, how often do you really remove all the mods when going to the dealer? As many Audi/VW/Porsche/BMW GIAC flashes we have done we have yet to flash a customer back to stock just so he can take the car to dealer for service. That said, when there is a catastrophic engine failure with warranty involved, it would be a good idea to remove any mods, not just the flash, from the vehicle.

No, it's not likely free(that is up to your local GIAC dealer) as there is labor involved, not just a plug-in and download(even this involves a flat rate charge of 1/2 to 1 hour of labor time).

That's not true though. There are already a handful of tuners that can flash fully via OBD after an initial benchflash. MP and ACF are two examples.

[Jadar]

Originally Posted by ROBNYC

They either drill it or separate it, ronanz cryptocar dd1981 Luminous Stubok can share some insight on the preferred method and why ARC550 ocN55 Bmw doubles MissionPerformance

Also the BIG question is, that I saw on the F80 thread was HP Autosport does GIAC need to bench flash for update/revision or flashing back to stock or is it done thru OBD2 after initial bench flash ?

Because I guarantee no one will bench flash you back to stock for free,
but obd2 (5mins) will be able to update, revision 2, or flash back to stock at no extra cost (my local tuner has been doing the latter) among a few not many here in the states.

Mine was separated as it should be. Drilling isn't a good idea IMO.

Good to see other vendors joining the F chassis flashing option.

I'll stay with my Enzo flash. 10,000 miles zero issues and I can run race gas and E30 mix. I'm on stage 2 with a downpipe and intercooler 93 octane.

[cryptocar]

Originally Posted by ocN55

That's not true though. There are already a handful of tuners that can flash fully via OBD after an initial benchflash. MP and ACF are two examples.

As an ACF customer myself I can confirm that I can have my DME flashed remotely via OBD.

[cryptocar]

Originally Posted by MissionPerformance

That is a really good point. Just like ROBNYC said, having ability of doing OBD2 flashing to stock or revision is a big game changer. That is something we have waited to perfect before we came to the forums as vendors and after initial bench flash, we can do everything remotely over OBD. If you have a warranty concern and need to go back to the dealer, its very important to have your car flashed back to stock. How many people want to remove the computer and go somewhere to get it flashed again when their is an OBD option available?

There is no reason why the dealer would go through the effort of determining whether your DME is flashed unless it was clearly and visibly poorly opened and resealed by the tuner. In fact there are very few dealers that would even know how to check for a flash (aside from road testing) and inspection with E-Sys and ISTA does not show any flash. So I totally disagree about the need to flash back to stock for warranty issues unless it's a big deal like total engine failure or transmission failure.

[FSociety]

Thanks MissionPerformance cryptocar dd1981 ocN55
Enzo, ACF, MP = can bench flash (initial 1st time) and everything else done thru OBD2

GIAC although these N20 numbers on 91 octane and stock car looks very decent, what will happen when a customer gets a DP or wants a stage2 ? You guys are you going to bench again and take out the ECU ? Why would anyone choose GIAC over some tuners as mentioned above that have been tuning Fxx since last year and revising and updating clients ?

[HP Autosport]

Originally Posted by ROBNYC

Thanks MissionPerformance cryptocar dd1981 ocN55
Enzo, ACF, MP = can bench flash (initial 1st time) and everything else done thru OBD2

GIAC although these N20 numbers on 91 octane and stock car looks very decent, what will happen when a customer gets a DP or wants a stage2 ? You guys are you going to bench again and take out the ECU ? Why would anyone choose GIAC over some tuners as mentioned above that have been tuning Fxx since last year and revising and updating clients ?

Stage 1will support DP, intake, intercooler and full exhaust just fine, the ECU will tolerate simple bolt-on upgrades. As for Stage 2, that is likely sometime down the road for GIAC. I am sure a road racer/time trial guy already has his F2x/F3x/F8x at GIAC's facility working on a Stage 2 or Race tune.

If you are simply looking to drive daily or go down the drag strip once in a while you may want to choose a simple piggy back system because of cost. You can only trick the OME ECU to do so much before you pop a CEL, that is why some piggy backs has the auto erase CEL function. If you are going to track your car or just want total reliability, a true flash is the way to go.