Why do some people mourne the E90 330i?

MMachines · 05-15-2009, 09:19 AM

I've seen it posted more than once where people may post something like:

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Too bad BMW won't bring back the 330 to the US market

I know I'm a newb and all, but why is this? Maybe it's obvious and I'm just oblivious.

noro · 05-15-2009, 09:22 AM

I agree, the engine in the 328 as just as capable and more economical. People want what they can't have, it's as simple as that.

darkcloud · 05-15-2009, 09:25 AM

to bmwna....

f the 330. bring the 335 wagon already fuckers!

sincerely,
darkcloud

jho · 05-15-2009, 09:29 AM

Erm because the 330i has more power than the 328i, but none of the maintenance issues associated with turbocharged engines. I'd for sure get it if I had the option.

blue2fire · 05-15-2009, 09:31 AM

Well, probably because it is the next most powerful alternative to the 335i and its unreliability. I like change for the better but they seriously need to fix the issue, not a day goes by without someone claiming to have been left stranded by it.

The 328i does not feel as happy when given the boot. It almost feels restricted in comparison...

SteveMD · 05-15-2009, 09:46 AM

The 330 is a great car BMW should simply up the power on the 328 back to 258hp. Or maybe a bit more.

sbux · 05-15-2009, 09:54 AM

330i is available but just not in the US. If they import it here it will cannibalize the 335 and no one will want to buy the 335

TheAcAvenger · 05-15-2009, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by sbux

330i is available but just not in the US. If they import it here it will cannibalize the 335 and no one will want to buy the 335

I'm just going to assume you meant that it would cannibalize the 328. There's a whole subforum of people who drive 335s that would never consider a 330 or a 328.

KL2DC · 05-15-2009, 10:05 AM

No no I think there's space for a 330i between the 328i and the 335i. Some people still believe strongly that munich-bred NA straight-six best define the 3er.

ArabianSensation · 05-15-2009, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jho

Erm because the 330i has more power than the 328i, but none of the maintenance issues associated with turbocharged engines. I'd for sure get it if I had the option.

The 328 is naturally aspirated if I'm not mistaken... I'll assume you meant to compare it to the 335 though :P

I'd prefer a 335 over a 330 simply because the 335 has computer controlled twin turbos, which can mean big performance gains with little money spent. Also, I believe the new e9x 328i got better performance figures than the e9x 330i.

BK · 05-15-2009, 10:13 AM

I think people miss it mainly because it's not around here anymore. I do agree that the 330i is a wonderfully balanced car and reliability seems to be good for most of us. I think it would sell well even if they kept the 328i and 335i as bookends around it. It's the 335i without the turbos. Decent power, nice sound. It came with all the same "upgrades" that the 335i comes with when compared to the 328i -- bigger brakes, more robust transmission, better wheels, Logic 7, chrome trim and exhaust, and so on.

Also, ArabianSensation, you may want to recheck your figures. E9x 328i does not have better performance than E9x 330i! 330i has a stronger engine and a bit better performance. You may be thinking of the E46 330i?

RambleJ · 05-15-2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by blue2fire

Well, probably because it is the next most powerful alternative to the 335i and its unreliability. I like change for the better but they seriously need to fix the issue, not a day goes by without someone claiming to have been left stranded by it.

The 328i does not feel as happy when given the boot. It almost feels restricted in comparison...

Stranded by what an hpfp failure?
Never happened to me and mine has failed 3 times! But would I trade it in for a 330?
So lets see my hpfp has failed 3 times.. equals 5 days in the shop. I don't mind it one bit for the extra power I am producing.

mike-y · 05-15-2009, 10:22 AM

But when the car is out of warranty, and you have to start paying for those hpfp failures, will you still not mind one bit?

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Originally Posted by RambleJ

Stranded by what an hpfp failure?
Never happened to me and mine has failed 3 times! But would I trade it in for a 330?
So lets see my hpfp has failed 3 times.. equals 5 days in the shop. I don't mind it one bit for the extra power I am producing.

blue2fire · 05-15-2009, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mike-y

But when the car is out of warranty, and you have to start paying for those hpfp failures, will you still not mind one bit?

The warranty was extended, i think?
Even then, a simple search would net Ramble the people he is looking for.

vgame64 · 05-15-2009, 10:25 AM

Don't forget, the new DI 330i is 272bhp. I'd consider it over the 335i if I wanted the linear feel of the NA engine.

jpsum · 05-15-2009, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ArabianSensation

The 328 is naturally aspirated if I'm not mistaken... I'll assume you meant to compare it to the 335 though :P

I'd prefer a 335 over a 330 simply because the 335 has computer controlled twin turbos, which can mean big performance gains with little money spent. Also, I believe the new e9x 328i got better performance figures than the e9x 330i.

Really?

BMWFanatic2008 · 05-15-2009, 10:29 AM

They should bring back 330 and get rid of 328.

RambleJ · 05-15-2009, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by blue2fire

The warranty was extended, i think?
Even then, a simple search would net Ramble the people he is looking for.

Correct the warranty has been extended to 100,000 and 10 years.. And I don't keep my cars that long anyways.
Like I said earler I have lived through 3 count'em 3 hpfp failures and was able to drive my car to the dealershipevery single time. Once the drive was 50-60 miles, no issues except for the fact that the car drives like a turtle.

BK · 05-15-2009, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by vgame64

Don't forget, the new DI 330i is 272bhp. I'd consider it over the 335i if I wanted the linear feel of the NA engine.

Make that 268HP and you're on the money. DI adds 13 HP over the 2006 model. The number you quoted was for metric HP.

Terrance28 · 05-15-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by sbux

330i is available but just not in the US. If they import it here it will cannibalize the 335 and no one will want to buy the 335

Haha are you kidding me this has got to be the craziest statement I have ever read on e90

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jpsum · 05-15-2009, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MovinUp

I've seen it posted more than once where people may post something like:

I know I'm a newb and all, but why is this? Maybe it's obvious and I'm just oblivious.

Because right off the bat, you get an extra 30 hp. That's a lot of HP if you had to do that yourself by modifying a 328. The two cars are priced at the same price, almost.

ArabianSensation · 05-15-2009, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jpsum

Really?

Yeah, really, I will try to look it up

05-15-2009, 09:22 AM	#2
noro Colonel 90 Rep 2,707 Posts Drives: '91 M3, '04 E46 ZHP, '72 2002 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Boston iTrader: (0)	I agree, the engine in the 328 as just as capable and more economical. People want what they can't have, it's as simple as that. __________________ zhpregistry.net - ZHP stats and free classifieds.
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darkcloud Colonel 335 Rep 2,385 Posts Drives: 09 VW JSW Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: cleveland, oh iTrader: (2) Garage List 2006 325i [0.00]	to bmwna.... f the 330. bring the 335 wagon already fuckers! sincerely, darkcloud __________________ retired 06 E90 325i New: 09 VW Platinum Grey Jetta Sportwagen 2.0T SEL w/DSG, panoramic sunroof and Ipod adapter
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jho Independent Observer 3 Rep 85 Posts Drives: E93 335i M-Sport Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: RDU, NC iTrader: (1)	Erm because the 330i has more power than the 328i, but none of the maintenance issues associated with turbocharged engines. I'd for sure get it if I had the option.
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SteveMD Colonel 196 Rep 2,485 Posts Drives: 2016 F10 535i MSport Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Raventown! iTrader: (3)	The 330 is a great car BMW should simply up the power on the 328 back to 258hp. Or maybe a bit more. __________________ 2006 E90 330i (retired) 2009 E90 335i (retired) 2012 E70 X5 50i M Sport (retired) 2016 F10 535i M Sport
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05-15-2009, 09:54 AM	#7
sbux First Lieutenant 13 Rep 343 Posts Drives: 330i 06 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	330i is available but just not in the US. If they import it here it will cannibalize the 335 and no one will want to buy the 335
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BK Smiling politely 165 Rep 7,931 Posts Drives: 330i Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Washington DC iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 330i [9.00]	I think people miss it mainly because it's not around here anymore. I do agree that the 330i is a wonderfully balanced car and reliability seems to be good for most of us. I think it would sell well even if they kept the 328i and 335i as bookends around it. It's the 335i without the turbos. Decent power, nice sound. It came with all the same "upgrades" that the 335i comes with when compared to the 328i -- bigger brakes, more robust transmission, better wheels, Logic 7, chrome trim and exhaust, and so on. Also, ArabianSensation, you may want to recheck your figures. E9x 328i does not have better performance than E9x 330i! 330i has a stronger engine and a bit better performance. You may be thinking of the E46 330i? __________________ E90 330i Black Sapphire 6MT \| 991.1 C4 Platinum Silver 7MT
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vgame64 Colonel 141 Rep 2,479 Posts Drives: BMW 335i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA iTrader: (9)	Don't forget, the new DI 330i is 272bhp. I'd consider it over the 335i if I wanted the linear feel of the NA engine.
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BMWFanatic2008 Major 233 Rep 1,179 Posts Drives: 2023 M3 6MT Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Miami iTrader: (5)	They should bring back 330 and get rid of 328.
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