[Glen e]

Who gets more allocation is usually the larger dealers that sell a lot of that car. But the allocation system is by model- Each model line is tracked for its own sales velocity so as I said above, the dealer that sells a lot of M’s , and doesn’t let them sit, builds his m allocation. If he sells a lot of fives and sevens, it gets him more more fives and sevens, but not other models.

It sounds like it may be unfair, but there literally is no other way to do it and be legal. Dealers can manufacture demand. I have been in court defending this system, so I know it well. Virtually every other manufacturer is the same way for their hot cars. Honda reps in the late 70s got thrown in jail for giving out cars to their best friends and dealers who screamed the loudest… That’s when things changed.

[TheAss3t]

Going to be a long wait unless you're ready to pay some markup.

[snareman]

You wonder how the smaller dealers stay alive with such limited allocations in comparison.

[Glen e]

Originally Posted by snareman

You wonder how the smaller dealers stay alive with such limited allocations in comparison.

It’s only the hot cars that are constricted, plenty of smaller dealers make good $ off 3, 5, 7 and X models which flow successfully.

[PittsDriver]

Originally Posted by TheAss3t

Going to be a long wait unless you're ready to pay some markup.

Reputable dealers who know the value in seeking a long term relationship with buyers will not participate in this nonsense on anything but the rarest of cars. Some manufacturers prohibit the practice on anything they sell. I'm currently waiting on an order for which I'm paying MSRP - something I never thought I would do - but I'd definitely draw the line at bidding over MSRP on allocations.

That said, how big is your ego? If you've got to have that X5M car over the M50i, that Z06 Corvette over the standard, that GT500 over the Mustang GT, then maybe your ego doesn't mind paying additional dealer markup?

I bet if they started charging a crapload of ADM on iX or 45e versions the waitlist would shrink substantially. Or maybe not?

[snareman]

Originally Posted by Glen e

It’s only the hot cars that are constricted, plenty of smaller dealers make good $ off 3, 5, 7 and X models which flow successfully.

Apparently unless you want an X3 M40

[TheAss3t]

Originally Posted by PittsDriver

Reputable dealers who know the value in seeking a long term relationship with buyers will not participate in this nonsense on anything but the rarest of cars. Some manufacturers prohibit the practice on anything they sell. I'm currently waiting on an order for which I'm paying MSRP - something I never thought I would do - but I'd definitely draw the line at bidding over MSRP on allocations.

That said, how big is your ego? If you've got to have that X5M car over the M50i, that Z06 Corvette over the standard, that GT500 over the Mustang GT, then maybe your ego doesn't mind paying additional dealer markup?

I bet if they started charging a crapload of ADM on iX or 45e versions the waitlist would shrink substantially. Or maybe not?

MSRP would be ideal.

[PittsDriver]

Originally Posted by TheAss3t

MSRP would be ideal.

$500 over dealer invoice would be ideal but such are the times we're living in. I've bought many vehicles over my lifetime only a few hundred dollars over invoice allowing, of course, for all the dealer rebate and held incentives. I bought my '21 Miata last May for $1,500 off MSRP. You can't touch that deal around here now and boy am I glad I got it when I did.

I'm having to hold my nose on this smelly MSRP deal on our M50i on order - but we're doing it. The people I really feel for are young first time car buyers overpaying for used cars that are available or having to wait months for a new car at or over MSRP.

It reminds me of when I bought my first home during the Jimmy Carter insane interest rates era - 11.5% on a home loan. But I survived it by buying a much less expensive home.

The moral to these stories: Timing can be everything.

[Westside Guy]

Originally Posted by Westside Guy

Also there are situations where people have ordered cars and when they arrive at the dealership they change their minds at the last minute. At that point the dealer has their salesmen call people that are on the top of the list for cars that have not yet been put into work and give them first crack at the one that has now become available.

Over the weekend a friend of mine who was on my local dealers list for a M3 Competition (he was told had a 1 year wait) received a call from our salesman that they had a last minute cancellation on a Alpine\White/ Tartufo M3 Competition and was giving my buddy 1st crack at the car. My friend passed because he hates white cars but this proves that with some dealers it pays to be on a list.