Best tire Opition Survey

tlrid3r · 10-01-2013, 05:36 PM

Which of these tires would you pick if you were planning to do 4-5 track days and the rest all street. I want both good grip and decent mileage.

Hankook R-S3---------------------Extreme Summer
Bridgestone RE-11-----------------Extreme Summer
Michelin PSS-----------------------Max Summer
Yokohama ADVAN Sport V105-------Max Summer

Merked M3 · 10-01-2013, 05:58 PM

Thiago,

RS-3's are the reigning champ in this realm and they are also know for being reasonably priced. I also had really good experience with RE-11's which may have a tiny edge in mileage. These numbers are off the top of my head, but I believe RS-3s are 140 tread-ware and RE-11 are 180 tread-ware so the RS-3 are a little stickier but wear quicker. The difference is probably negligible tho.

Everyone on this board seems to go crazy for Super Sports, but honestly they are still glorified street tires. Didn't you melt a set of these at the track?

bCaHnIaCnKa · 10-01-2013, 06:05 PM

RE-11s

arter · 10-01-2013, 06:07 PM

For Ca., sunny and hot, I would pick the RS-3's.

If you get cold or wet, then no ( AD-08's would be better).

If no track then PSS's....

They changed the wear rating on RS-3's to 200 so they meet the autocross rules..... same formula just changed the number....

Z K · 10-01-2013, 06:14 PM

Whoa, you are missing a lot of tires to consider on your list for extreme performance!

Yokohama AD08 is one to consider. Also Dunlop ZII, Falken RT615K and BFG Rival

WTF is that Advan Sport tire? That is not a track worthy tire.

tlrid3r · 10-01-2013, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Merked M3

Thiago,

RS-3's are the reigning champ in this realm and they are also know for being reasonably priced. I also had really good experience with RE-11's which may have a tiny edge in mileage. These numbers are off the top of my head, but I believe RS-3s are 140 tread-ware and RE-11 are 180 tread-ware so the RS-3 are a little stickier but wear quicker. The difference is probably negligible tho.

Everyone on this board seems to go crazy for Super Sports, but honestly they are still glorified street tires. Didn't you melt a set of these at the track?

Good pointers. I did destroy a set of PSS, difference now is a much wider wheel and more tire so it should handle the abuse and load better. Thanks

tlrid3r · 10-01-2013, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Z K

Whoa, you are missing a lot of tires to consider on your list for extreme performance!

Yokohama AD08 is one to consider. Also Dunlop ZII, Falken RT615K and BFG Rival

WTF is that Advan Sport tire? That is not a track worthy tire.

Thanks yes I know. Didn't want to add all cause these are the option available to me. Good point on the advan's.

tlrid3r · 10-01-2013, 06:25 PM

All remember it's a poll. Meaning, out of these choices which one would you pick. (I know there is other choices out there) if none post "none" I didn't add that to the poll.
Thanks

slicer · 10-01-2013, 07:17 PM

Answer also depends on your wheel sizes / offsets... Some of the tires listed above have limited size options. For example - rs3's are out if you have 19's.

tlrid3r · 10-01-2013, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by slicer

Answer also depends on your wheel sizes / offsets... Some of the tires listed above have limited size options. For example - rs3's are out if you have 19's.

Well that's why I only listed those cause they fit my set up...

18x9.5 e22 square on 275/35/18

1MOREMOD · 10-01-2013, 08:46 PM

One of the first 2. Rs3 if more dry track, re-11 if more wet I would say.

slicer · 10-01-2013, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tlrid3r

Well that's why I only listed those cause they fit my set up...

18x9.5 e22 square on 275/35/18

Cool. I voted for the rs3. I would also consider Dunlop ZII and BFG Rival.

tlrid3r · 10-01-2013, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

One of the first 2. Rs3 if more dry track, re-11 if more wet I would say.

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Originally Posted by slicer

Cool. I voted for the rs3. I would also consider Dunlop ZII and BFG Rival.

thanks guys

Malek@MRF · 10-02-2013, 10:07 AM

If the car plans on being driven on the street, the RE-11 is the best tire hands down. RS3 will give a migraine on the street as they are noisy and not the best in wet weather. They are superior to NT05's and quieter.

For comparison purposes, I was a full 8 seconds slower at Big Willow with Michelin PSS compared to Nitto NT05. However, I can't say the Michelin is a bad tire at the track, it holds up well, just doesn't have the grip and predictability of a more focused tire.

tlrid3r · 10-02-2013, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Malek@MRF

If the car plans on being driven on the street, the RE-11 is the best tire hands down. RS3 will give a migraine on the street as they are noisy and not the best in wet weather. They are superior to NT05's and quieter.

For comparison purposes, I was a full 8 seconds slower at Big Willow with Michelin PSS compared to Nitto NT05. However, I can't say the Michelin is a bad tire at the track, it holds up well, just doesn't have the grip and predictability of a more focused tire.

thank you Thank you. these inputs are great.

tlrid3r · 10-02-2013, 12:54 PM

starting to lean towards the RE-11s.

Z K · 10-02-2013, 01:03 PM

You should consider the RE11A since the RE11 is now discontinued.

tlrid3r · 10-02-2013, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Z K

You should consider the RE11A since the RE11 is now discontinued.

the RE-11 is still available the RE-11a is not on my size 275/35/18

**ben@tirerack** · 10-02-2013, 03:29 PM

Re-11 unless rain is of no concern. Then RS3

MRSSIIM3 · 10-02-2013, 03:43 PM

PSS

tlrid3r · 10-04-2013, 12:23 PM

thanks a lot everyone. I ordered RE-11. I will create a full tire life and events thread for you future reference since you all helped out.

Ezio · 10-04-2013, 12:33 PM

i had the PSS in the past. very good tire, also getting great reviews all the time by people. although its a pricey tire. i wouldn't run them on a stock M3 though, but a s/c M3 i would.

View Poll Results: Which tire would you pick for 25% track and the rest DD
Hankook R-S3-----------------Extreme summer	6	18.75%
BridgeStone RE-11------------Extreme summer	11	34.38%
Michelin PSS------------------Max Summer	15	46.88%
Yokohama ADVAN Sport V105--Max Summer	0	0%
Voters: 32. You may not vote on this poll

10-01-2013, 05:36 PM	#1
tlrid3r just another M3 514 Rep 1,151 Posts Drives: e92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: San Jose, ca iTrader: (6)	Best tire Opition Survey Which of these tires would you pick if you were planning to do 4-5 track days and the rest all street. I want both good grip and decent mileage. Hankook R-S3---------------------Extreme Summer Bridgestone RE-11-----------------Extreme Summer Michelin PSS-----------------------Max Summer Yokohama ADVAN Sport V105-------Max Summer
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10-01-2013, 05:58 PM	#2
Merked M3 First Lieutenant 30 Rep 361 Posts Drives: E90 M3 6MT Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Sunnyvale, CA iTrader: (0)	Thiago, RS-3's are the reigning champ in this realm and they are also know for being reasonably priced. I also had really good experience with RE-11's which may have a tiny edge in mileage. These numbers are off the top of my head, but I believe RS-3s are 140 tread-ware and RE-11 are 180 tread-ware so the RS-3 are a little stickier but wear quicker. The difference is probably negligible tho. Everyone on this board seems to go crazy for Super Sports, but honestly they are still glorified street tires. Didn't you melt a set of these at the track? __________________ 2008 E90 M3 6-MT - Sold but not forgotten - amazing car The next car, my Porsche Cayman S
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10-01-2013, 06:05 PM	#3
bCaHnIaCnKa Another Female ///M Driver 0 Rep 14 Posts Drives: E60 LCI Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Le Bayz iTrader: (0)	RE-11s __________________ E60 LCI 5 E46 CB ZCP M3
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10-01-2013, 06:07 PM	#4
arter collecting toys 41 Rep 810 Posts Drives: M3 MCB Join Date: May 2008 Location: rochester, ny iTrader: (1)	For Ca., sunny and hot, I would pick the RS-3's. If you get cold or wet, then no ( AD-08's would be better). If no track then PSS's.... They changed the wear rating on RS-3's to 200 so they meet the autocross rules..... same formula just changed the number.... __________________ 2011 e92 M3 Monte Carlo Blue ESS 535 - gone but not forgotten 2015 cayman GTS - new toy 2006 SLK 55 AMG sold
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10-01-2013, 06:14 PM	#5
Z K Major General 1889 Rep 5,506 Posts Drives: E90 M3, G20 M340i Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (3)	Whoa, you are missing a lot of tires to consider on your list for extreme performance! Yokohama AD08 is one to consider. Also Dunlop ZII, Falken RT615K and BFG Rival WTF is that Advan Sport tire? That is not a track worthy tire. __________________ Auto Detailing Enthusiast!
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10-01-2013, 06:25 PM	#8
tlrid3r just another M3 514 Rep 1,151 Posts Drives: e92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: San Jose, ca iTrader: (6)	All remember it's a poll. Meaning, out of these choices which one would you pick. (I know there is other choices out there) if none post "none" I didn't add that to the poll. Thanks __________________ ///M3... Don't want more power, Just want it to turn sharper one step closer each time. -Ohlins TTX Raceline, PolePostions seats, Akrapovic EVO, ARC-8, 1/2 Cage, Seat Delete, Stoptech BBK, solid Subframe and diff bushing, spherical bearing on everything.
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10-01-2013, 07:17 PM	#9
slicer Major General 2739 Rep 6,734 Posts Drives: 'E46 M3 Race Car, '23 X7 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wisconsin - Instagram - @slicer_m iTrader: (39)	Answer also depends on your wheel sizes / offsets... Some of the tires listed above have limited size options. For example - rs3's are out if you have 19's. __________________ '23 X7 '04 M3 - Fall Line Motorsports Built Race Car - S65 swap, Dry Sump, Bosch Stand-Alone ECU, Drenth Sequential Trans, MCS 3-Way, Flossmann Wide Body, Brembo Motorsports Brakes, Drexler LSD, BBS E88 Etc. INSTAGRAM - @Slicer_M
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10-01-2013, 08:46 PM	#11
1MOREMOD - 11817 Rep 23,187 Posts Drives: Race car-> Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: check your mirrors iTrader: (5)	One of the first 2. Rs3 if more dry track, re-11 if more wet I would say.
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10-02-2013, 10:07 AM	#14
Malek@MRF BimmerPost Supporting Vendor 731 Rep 3,735 Posts Drives: E92 M3, E46 M3, G82 M4 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Irvine, California iTrader: (5)	If the car plans on being driven on the street, the RE-11 is the best tire hands down. RS3 will give a migraine on the street as they are noisy and not the best in wet weather. They are superior to NT05's and quieter. For comparison purposes, I was a full 8 seconds slower at Big Willow with Michelin PSS compared to Nitto NT05. However, I can't say the Michelin is a bad tire at the track, it holds up well, just doesn't have the grip and predictability of a more focused tire. __________________ BMW PERFORMANCE SPECIALISTS. Race Engines. Suspension. F/I. Brakes. Race Preparation. Factory Service. Alignments. OFFICIAL PARTNERS: KW. MOTON. Brembo. AP Racing. BBS Motorsport. iND. HRE. Turner Motorsport. VAC. BMW Motorsport. Facebook \| Instagram \| Yelp! \| Flikr Phone: 949-233-0448 \| E-Mail: info@mrfengineering.com
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10-02-2013, 12:54 PM	#16
tlrid3r just another M3 514 Rep 1,151 Posts Drives: e92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: San Jose, ca iTrader: (6)	starting to lean towards the RE-11s. __________________ ///M3... Don't want more power, Just want it to turn sharper one step closer each time. -Ohlins TTX Raceline, PolePostions seats, Akrapovic EVO, ARC-8, 1/2 Cage, Seat Delete, Stoptech BBK, solid Subframe and diff bushing, spherical bearing on everything.
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10-02-2013, 01:03 PM	#17
Z K Major General 1889 Rep 5,506 Posts Drives: E90 M3, G20 M340i Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (3)	You should consider the RE11A since the RE11 is now discontinued. __________________ Auto Detailing Enthusiast!
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10-02-2013, 03:29 PM	#19
ben@tirerack M3Post Supporting Vendor 87 Rep 964 Posts Drives: 740i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: South Bend, IN iTrader: (0)	Re-11 unless rain is of no concern. Then RS3 __________________ _______________________________________________ I have accepted a new position at Tire Rack and am no longer in the sales department. gary@tirerack.com is available to assist with M3 questions.
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MRSSIIM3 General 148 Rep 1,348 Posts Drives: M4 SO Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NY iTrader: (5)	PSS
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10-04-2013, 12:23 PM	#21
tlrid3r just another M3 514 Rep 1,151 Posts Drives: e92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: San Jose, ca iTrader: (6)	thanks a lot everyone. I ordered RE-11. I will create a full tire life and events thread for you future reference since you all helped out. __________________ ///M3... Don't want more power, Just want it to turn sharper one step closer each time. -Ohlins TTX Raceline, PolePostions seats, Akrapovic EVO, ARC-8, 1/2 Cage, Seat Delete, Stoptech BBK, solid Subframe and diff bushing, spherical bearing on everything.
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10-04-2013, 12:33 PM	#22
Ezio Brigadier General 380 Rep 3,934 Posts Drives: 2023 Alfa Romeo, 2023 m240i Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: MI iTrader: (0)	i had the PSS in the past. very good tire, also getting great reviews all the time by people. although its a pricey tire. i wouldn't run them on a stock M3 though, but a s/c M3 i would.
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