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      02-15-2010, 08:36 AM   #1
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New ALPINA B3S Biturbo to be released - N54 with 400hp / 540 Nm torque

ALPINA has made it known that they will present an upgraded version of their 3 series model B3 Biturbo, now called B3 S Biturbo but still featuring the N54 biturbo engine (not the N55 that is now installed in the 335i). Apparently the boost has been raised some more in order to obtain 400hp at the flywheel (before: 360), torque has been raised to 540Nm at the flywheel (before: 500); no additional technical details are known for the time being, but rumours have it that at least a bigger oil cooler (offered as an option on the current B3) is installed from the factory.



The new B3S Biturbo can be ordered starting 15 February 2010, delivery July 2010. The official presentation will be made on the Geneva fair. The following data has been leaked:

400 hp @ 6000/min - 540 Nm @ 4500/min
Vmax - l/100km - CO2 g/km (xi in brackets)
  • sedan (E90): 300 (295) 9,7 224 (232)
  • touring (E91): 296 (291) 9,7 225 (234)
  • coupé (E929: 300 (295) 9,7 224 (232)
  • cabrio (E93): 298 9,7 225
New 19" Classic rims will also be available, similar to those that the current B7 is equipped with (see image above).

EDIT: Here's a bigger photo of the B7 wheels, the new ones for the B3S will look identical:


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Quite laughable that the new N55 engine is suppose to have the same output as the N54 and yet they make performance models like the 335is model and the Alpina using the N54 engine....

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Quite laughable that the new N55 engine is suppose to have the same output as the N55 and yet they make performance models like the 335is model and the Alpina using the N54 engine....
Of course the same engine will have the same output..j/k. May want to edit that
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Of course the same engine will have the same output..j/k. May want to edit that
lol...no need you did it for me...if you didn't quote me then I would have otherwise!
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Curious to see the details and the performance. (0-100 and 0-200)
LSD...?
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Curious to see the details and the performance. (0-100 and 0-200)
LSD...?
It will probably remain an option, as for the current B3 BT.

I forgot to mention that also new 19" Classic rims will be available, similar to those that the current B7 is equipped with.

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Picture is broken

I wish we could order one of those here in the U.S.
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i get more and more trust in my auto, when i read this. and thinking about an engine overhaul in about 2 years .
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Yea, everytime I see BMW releasing stuff with more power on our engine with basically the same stuff (+ some added cooling) it makes me feel good about our turbos and engines.
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Man, I wish we could get more Alpina models in the U.S. I would get rid of my E90 335i for an E91 B3 S in a heartbeart if it was availible here.
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Man, I wish we could get more Alpina models in the U.S. I would get rid of my E90 335i for an E91 B3 S in a heartbeart if it was availible here.
What's wrong with Dinan Stage 3 ? I think it actually costs less and the power is the same (408hp)...
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Quite laughable that the new N55 engine is suppose to have the same output as the N54 and yet they make performance models like the 335is model and the Alpina using the N54 engine....
The n54 is tried and true. Don't think for one minute that Alpina doesn't know about the aftermarket tuning (and it's success) around this engine.
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Does anyone know if this Alpina will use the same automatic transmission as run of the mill n54 powered E9Xs?
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The n54 is tried and true. Don't think for one minute that Alpina doesn't know about the aftermarket tuning (and it's success) around this engine.
Oh I am well aware of it since all these new performance models coming out by BMW is with the N54 engine...I am very happy to own a 335 with the N54, just hope the future the 943 HPFP is the real deal fix with those inherent fuel pump failures...The N54 will be a true enthusiast engine once they no longer produce them anymore, and it seems as though car manufacturers are more geared towards efficiency and less green house effect that the future engines will be compromised with performance for efficiency!
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Does anyone know if this Alpina will use the same automatic transmission as run of the mill n54 powered E9Xs?
They do. Only the software is modified to allow for faster shift times.

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Where is the picture mentioned in the text of your post? Does it show the new wheel style on a 335?

I want these wheels!


http://wot.motortrend.com/6607909/auto-shows/2010-chicago-2011-alpina-b7-sports-some-slick-wheels/index.html

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What's wrong with Dinan Stage 3 ? I think it actually costs less and the power is the same (408hp)...
There is nothing wrong with the Dinan tune. I just want an Alpina wagon with the twin turbo engine in it.
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Where is the picture mentioned in the text of your post? Does it show the new wheel style on a 335?

I want these wheels!


http://wot.motortrend.com/6607909/auto-shows/2010-chicago-2011-alpina-b7-sports-some-slick-wheels/index.html
Fixed the picture in my initial post. And yes, it does show the new design of the 19" wheels for the B3S - it will also be available as an aftermarket part from May/July on (I enquired directly with Alpina yesterday), the price will be similar to the existing design, i.e. around 4000€ for a set including tires.

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It will probably remain an option, as for the current B3 BT.

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When I enquired about an LSD when I ordered my B3 BT this was not an option at least for the UK spec.

I am sort of please that they are not doing the new classic design for the 18" alloy design, as my winter set of classic's have arrived last week. I would not be too pleased to say the least if they were.

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When I enquired about an LSD when I ordered my B3 BT this was not an option at least for the UK spec.
You can always retrofit it. Or just get a Quaife at Birds, which will probably be easier and less expensive. Highly recommended - just got mine installed and am very satisfied with it.

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i like this bumper, so much cleaner than the after-thought diffuser look everone's been going with...
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Update: some photos from the Geneva show

Two photos of the new B3S Biturbo from the ALPINA stand at the Geneva show (the new rims look great IMO):





More also here: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...99&postcount=6

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