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      11-25-2013, 11:33 AM   #1
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Is the Q50 a 3er Competitor?

Saw one on the road. Indicated 3.7L on the side. Wonder how well they handle.
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      11-25-2013, 12:03 PM   #2
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Saw one on the road. Indicated 3.7L on the side. Wonder how well they handle.
http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=888520
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Yes.

But so far I have not read great things about it. The G37 was a better car when introduced a few years ago than the Q50 is now.

Also, NO MANUAL TRANS offered.
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great looking car, but no where near the driving characteristic of a BMW IMO.
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It has potential, but yeah not sure how I feel about it just yet. Supposed to be going to an event next week that you can drive them without the 'salesman' harassment.
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A guy at work has the G37 and his lease is up next month. After looking at the Q50 he's extending his G37 lease.
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My friend just leased a Q60 (turned in his G37 lease) and he swears by it. I have never been impressed with Infini's looks. He said I could test it, but that means he would have to drive my car...not happening.
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I had a pretty extensive test drive with it about 3 weeks ago and it was a very nice car. It is not as athletic as the F30 but the 3.7liter engine felt stronger than the 328i. The G37 is more athletic also than the Q50 but the Q50 is definitely more refined than the G37. It is a good value car but definitely not as sporting as it's German competitors.
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My friend just leased a Q60 (turned in his G37 lease) and he swears by it. I have never been impressed with Infini's looks. He said I could test it, but that means he would have to drive my car...not happening.
Q60 is the G37 Coupe which has not yet been updated while the Q50 is mostly new.


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I had a pretty extensive test drive with it about 3 weeks ago and it was a very nice car. It is not as athletic as the F30 but the 3.7liter engine felt stronger than the 328i. The G37 is more athletic also than the Q50 but the Q50 is definitely more refined than the G37. It is a good value car but definitely not as sporting as it's German competitors.
I would hope it felt faster than a 328 lol, it's numbers only slightly better the N20 and it gets beaten in most measures by the 335.

The G37 is the good value, $249 leases. The Q50 gets pricey pretty quick, loses its appeal.
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Q60 is the G37 Coupe which has not yet been updated while the Q50 is mostly new.




I would hope it felt faster than a 328 lol, it's numbers only slightly better the N20 and it gets beaten in most measures by the 335.

The G37 is the good value, $249 leases. The Q50 gets pricey pretty quick, loses its appeal.
I don't know about the US but here in Canada you can get a decently optioned Q50 with Navigation package for less than $40,000 Cdn(with discount). That makes it cheaper than the 328i and hell of a lot faster. At that price it isn't competition for the 335i as a similiarly priced 335i would be easily $10,000 dollars more here in Canada(with discount).
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Apparently, the drive by wire steering in the up-market versions is terrible. Puts our complaints with the electric assist in our BMWs into perspective.

Nice styling though - not gross like the Lexus. The 3.7 V6 is basically the same engine that is in the 370z. Not bad but not as nice as an inline 6 in a BMW.
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I don't know about the US but here in Canada you can get a decently optioned Q50 with Navigation package for less than $40,000 Cdn(with discount). That makes it cheaper than the 328i and hell of a lot faster. At that price it isn't competition for the 335i as a similiarly priced 335i would be easily $10,000 dollars more here in Canada(with discount).
How is a Q50 a hell of a lot faster than a 328? 328 nets 5.4/13.8 0-60/1/4 in a few of the better tests. Use of terms like "hell of a lot faster" takes away credibility when the Q50 is more like 5.2/13.5.

Please don't turn this into an event where I have to post 3 mag sources of sub 14 sec 1/4 times

I don't want to get into pricing as it is def. done differently in the US with how the cars are equipped.
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Apparently, the drive by wire steering in the up-market versions is terrible. Puts our complaints with the electric assist in our BMWs into perspective.

Nice styling though - not gross like the Lexus. The 3.7 V6 is basically the same engine that is in the 370z. Not bad but not as nice as an inline 6 in a BMW.
I like the styling quite a bit.

But just like the IS250/350, drivetrain is carryover. You could complain about the N55 being carryover, but it happens to be the best engine in the segment and the 8spd auto the best trans.
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I like the styling quite a bit.

But just like the IS250/350, drivetrain is carryover. You could complain about the N55 being carryover, but it happens to be the best engine in the segment and the 8spd auto the best trans.
Yes the hood has a similar look to the F30 with the extra angles.
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How is a Q50 a hell of a lot faster than a 328? 328 nets 5.4/13.8 0-60/1/4 in a few of the better tests. Use of terms like "hell of a lot faster" takes away credibility when the Q50 is more like 5.2/13.5.

Please don't turn this into an event where I have to post 3 mag sources of sub 14 sec 1/4 times

I don't want to get into pricing as it is def. done differently in the US with how the cars are equipped.
Let me rephrase that and say the Q50 FELT a lot faster. The 328i that I test drove had some lag both from the engine and the transmission while the Q50 just got up and went.

Also if we look at your numbers in the 1/4 mile the Q50 would beat the 328i 3+ car lengths if we are looking at the 328i better times since .1second equals roughly 1 car length.
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Let me rephrase that and say the Q50 FELT a lot faster. The 328i that I test drove had some lag both from the engine and the transmission while the Q50 just got up and went.

Also if we look at your numbers in the 1/4 mile the Q50 would beat the 328i 3+ car lengths if we are looking at the 328i better times since .1second equals roughly 1 car length.
Big whoop. In German das ist nur einen Augenblick
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Let me rephrase that and say the Q50 FELT a lot faster. The 328i that I test drove had some lag both from the engine and the transmission while the Q50 just got up and went.

Also if we look at your numbers in the 1/4 mile the Q50 would beat the 328i 3+ car lengths if we are looking at the 328i better times since .1second equals roughly 1 car length.
That is all fine with me, I only took issue with the wording, not the fact that the q50 is faster.

But you have to admit, 3 car lengths over the BASE engine of the 328 is not too much when you remember only a year ago there was a base engine 2.5L in the Infiniti where the 328 would put more like 13-15 car lengths on it.

Even now with the 320, even that car would put the hurt on the G25. Luckily they dropped it lol.

Also feel and facts are very different. My friends wife kept FEELING like her PPK 335 was slower than their E90 335. It was about rawness and power delivery, I raced the F30 against the e90 and pulled a few cars on it. Then she understood.
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Just check it out...I got an infiniti for my wife and it is last infiniti I would ever get.
Everything feels so cheap and I can tell that car is aging day after day.
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Strong car. Nice car but can't compete with 3 series. My opinion.
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That is all fine with me, I only took issue with the wording, not the fact that the q50 is faster.

But you have to admit, 3 car lengths over the BASE engine of the 328 is not too much when you remember only a year ago there was a base engine 2.5L in the Infiniti where the 328 would put more like 13-15 car lengths on it.

Even now with the 320, even that car would put the hurt on the G25. Luckily they dropped it lol.

Also feel and facts are very different. My friends wife kept FEELING like her PPK 335 was slower than their E90 335. It was about rawness and power delivery, I raced the F30 against the e90 and pulled a few cars on it. Then she understood.
That G25 base engine was such a dog and had no place in a luxury car in North America. IMO I don't think BMW should even sell the 320i and the base engine should be the 328i and up. I see maybe one 320i a year and I have yet to see any G25.

I would take the 328i any day over the Q50 but if price was involved than that would be a different story as the Q50 like you said is good value for that performance.
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I would purchase the q50 over the is350 in regard to exterior looks, but 335i is king! IMO.
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