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I don't think you can be underwhelmed by the car. However, the reviews I've read have said the DCT, adaptive and the ceramics are a must. You can build a $88K+ M3 when you fully option the car.
When you add all the little pieces to make the car more track specific you could easily be close to $95-$100K. I don't see racing up 1500+ miles a month on this car being a good call for a "daily driver." Tracking the car will be a blast but are those Michelins going to last? Could be a $1500 weekend with brakes and tires. You'll wish you bought this car when the next M3 is a turbo 4 cylinder. |
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Seems like most reviewers to date didn't even get a chance to review the MT, and they are saying DCT is the way to go because it's a great transmission - not because the MT isn't. Almost every reviewed car has CCBs. By all accounts, great brakes that are severely overpriced. How has every prior M3 been a trackable vehicle with "only" the stock steel brakes? |
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Time to speed and time to distance advantages from short shift times do not both follow the same pattern. Quicker shift times benefit time to speed much more cumulatively and earlier in the entire performance speed range. The savings in shift times do not add up linearly in time to distance, which is more important in an actual race (who is ahead). Thus 1/4 mi times for identical vehicles with differing shift times do not differ by shift time savings*number of shifts. Time to speeds will differ by this prediction. The reason for is due to basic math, acceleration profiles are very lumpy/complex, take the integral to get to velocity and the curves are smoothed, another integral and more smoothing. Acceleration dips significantly during a slow MT shift, velocity less so and distance even less. That being said, overall effects are basically cumulative across the full spectrum of speeds. Devil is in the details...
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CCBs are still an upgrade and better than steel discs. The Corvette ZRI came with Brembo CCBs standard BTW. If you don't want $8k+ brakes fine but if you want the best brakes possible than you buy the CCBs. I had PCCBs on my 2008 Porsche GT3 and they were amazing. Why would you leave off perhaps one of the best performance options you can have with the M3/M4? The car is blistering fast why would you not upgrade the brakes? Going fast is easy, stopping quickly and never wondering if you have brakes going 150+ mph is a good thing.
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Regardless of the presence of an overdrive gear like the current M-DCT has, one still needs to cover a give gear spread to match the cars fundamentals, power and drag primarily. A closer ratio across all gears is not not possible. Move one gear a bit closer and the next is further without another change, across the gears. Perhaps you mean the situation in mind of the benefits of an additional gear? If the additional gear is not used for an over drive type gear then this truly allows tighter spacing across all of the gears with no penalty that would normally be present from the time to shift the MT. In this regards DCT can leverage extra gears by not have the normal penalty of a higher quantity of slower shift times as compared to a MT with the same number of gears.
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I'd have to side on the Coke side of this argument, too. Mineral white is too soft. So soft, it should come with a pack of M-branded tampons that fit conveniently in your purse.
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Had a chance to pull the Lithium battery from a F82 M4 over the weekend, quite a bit of weight was shaved off the previous AGM version:
Part: 61.21.9.312.759 Price: Not yet listed in system Specs: 12V 69Ah 770A/860CCA Lithium Original 30lbs shed just from the battery alone. System uses a different IBS connector and vent tube than the E9X M3, doubt a swap would be suitable for previous M3 models. However, the footprint is the same, keeping AGM/Lead Acid batteries an open possibility for budget-conscious as lithium type batteries can be $$.
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Sure thing, here's the F80 dyno from last week vs E92 M3 (both DCT):
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