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11-06-2012, 02:04 AM | #53 | |
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Obviously our EPA tests are different and we'll see different numbers but a ~50MPG 3 series with a 0-60 of 8 seconds and a (hopefully) slightly lower MSRP than a 328i will be exactly what a lot of people have been waiting for. Imagine being able to rival a Prius' gas mileage in a BMW 3 series and you'll see why Europeans think the Prius is such a joke. |
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11-06-2012, 02:38 AM | #55 |
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Exactly. I think this is a confirmation that the new X5 will be available late 2013, which is good news because I think it has been rumored för 2014.
My lease ends in october 2013 and I can extend it a few months
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11-06-2012, 03:00 AM | #57 |
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Guys, driving a 6 cylinder Diesel with MT is really _no_ fun (like someone already said)!
Furthermore, the 4 cylinder Diesels have a REALLY crappy transmission and the shifting is just horrible in comparison to (let's say) 135i. They're worlds apart and you can literally tell that BMW put in cheap transmission parts into their 4 cylinder models to save money. All in all: Diesel MT is a no-go. The 6cyl are either not available or no fun to drive and the 4cyl have a crappy transmission (they're not too much fun to drive either). I'd get the 8 Speed AT. |
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DITTO...I would even pay extra to have a stick vs. a slush box.
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Diesel fuel itself contains more energy and the engines therefore offer better efficiency.
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If they badge it a 328d, I'd actually expect it to cost slightly more than a 328i.
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should give BMW a slight competitive edge over the competition
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As good of news as this is, I wont believe until I see it. I hate to be skeptical, but BMWNA has be on again - off again about bringing diesels to our market. Until these models are actually on the showroom floor I wont waste any of my time.
If they do bring them, I would bet they would only with the 8 speed transmission. It would be a perfect match for an engine that creates a vary narrow power band. |
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Even my E46 320d is capable of up to the equivalent to 55 US MPG on a run, so I'm sure the latest generation of diesels should offer fantastic real world economy - no matter how the EPA test it.
Having said that, being a four cylinder diesel I agree that a Manual is more of a chore than a pleasure, basically you're just stirring the gearbox to keep it between 2000rpm and 3500rpm, the rest of the time it's pretty gutless - but since fuel over here equates to 9.5 $/gal, I can live with it being unresponsive if it achieves 2-3 times the economy I get from my even older E36 Coupe. |
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*425 lb-ft of Torque from a 3.0L inline 6 (The passing ability of this car is sick.) *0-60mph: 5.3s http://www.roadandtrack.com/content/...-335d_data.pdf *It will also return over 40mpg on the highway. (I have personally gone 600 miles from Alabama to Texas without refueling for 40.85mpg. Others on this forum have gone further for even better mpg) I have owned both the 335i and d and much prefer the d for its excellent mix of power and fuel efficiency. Also with all that torque it's more fun to drive too. Diesel prices can exceed premium gasoline depending where you live. Right now it's priced with mid grade where I live which is nice. Some people prefer a high revving gasoline engine, so to each their own. |
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