[justenx]

Does someone know how to get rid of the audio delay and make steering wheel buttons control tracks?
I tried BASIS_KOMBI_MMI_LIST = aktiv, and tick use car phone bt, there is still delay (noticeable when watching a video and not only music, and buttons still doesn’t work)

Thanks

[justenx]

Originally Posted by fe7565

My mistake...the front camera has a time-on option not the rear cam. The front cam comes on for your selected time period (0-15s) after the rear cam if you put the car in drive again after reverse. You can still cancel out of the rear cam anytime with the Menu button, if that was selected.


Not familiar with the OEM 360 cam and how it's implemented in the MMI. I am sure it reads the CANBUS messages and the MMI takes action based on those. Search the forums, or hopefully someone else can address this.

As far as the Pixel. It's painful, but I would start from scratch and remove the Pixel from the car's Bluetooth and also from the MMI's. Then add back in the MMI again first and then to the car. Make sure in the car under Options you select data, audio under the paired phone. Also make sure to give full access in the Pixel settings to the BLE and wifi connections with the car and MMI. When I used Android in the past (use CarPLay now), deep access permissions were not automatic.

Some people toggle between the car and MMI for having full bluetooth control, but primarily affects the audio priority and quality.

The problem with these MMIs is that the firmware is closed and worked on by a few so-called engineers in China. So no way they are able/willing to address issues that their customers (like us) struggle with. I wish the couple of Andream distributor people lurking here, as much as they are trying to be helpful, would pass on to their MMI engineer contacts these common recurring issues.

If the MMI would be an open-source firmware, the public working together would have already fixed the myriad of problems. Just like Firefly1337 and his team did early on when they hacked into and modified/vastly improved on the MMI firmware files.

Many people had good results with changing their MCU files to MCU 21.9.13.122 (note the risks)
MCU firmware updates are a much lower risk than the MMI program firmware updates which seem to be specific to the distributor.

Does it really switch automatically to front camera when you put the car on drive?
For me it’s only after I am driving like 5 meters or get to 5kmh (coded this way and can’t be coded to 0)

[fe7565]

Originally Posted by justenx

Does it really switch automatically to front camera when you put the car on drive?
For me it’s only after I am driving like 5 meters or get to 5kmh (coded this way and can’t be coded to 0)

Without posting details about your MMI, hard to answer anything.

[menem]

Hello,
I have purchased Andream MMI, the NBT version, since I have a HU_ENTRYNAV (NBT system but without NAV). I connected everything as instructed on the forum, however when I switch to AA screen, nothing is shown (black screen). When I switch to BMW menu, it works fine, so I believe I have connected everything correctly. I'm doubting there might be an issue because I have upgraded the basic 6.6 screen to 8.8 one some time ago. However, I have put the dip switch position as for 8.8 screen - 123 to ON. Do you guys have any clue why it does not work?

Thanks

[BMWChap]

Originally Posted by fe7565

The code should be 5025, but on the first page there is a list of other codes. Read the guide carefully.

The bluetooth gives better audio vs, the AUX-IN analog input, and also groups the various audio inputs into one channel. While with the AUX-IN the MMI often missed phone call audio, navigation instructions, etc.

Setting up the bluetooth audio in the menu is a bit tricky. Should delete all pairings from the MMI first. The two BT channel settings in the menu are a bit tricky to setup as the MMI reboots in a couple of seconds after selecting it and does not give you time to enable the second one. And then that menu selection disappears. So you have to be quick to select both before the MMI reboots.


Some Logic 7 EQ settings, but they may have been using the AUX-IN at that time:

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...ostcount=10823

I have the German ModsUK version

I can confirm the audio sounds terrible via AUX so i'll be switching it back to Bluetooth, interestingly on my BMW E92 2010 CIC I have what appears to be a later CUST version ??

SDK Version: 25.0.0.7.0.0.2.0
CUST Version: EW_CHL_1.6.16R2_n
MCU Version: 21.7.21.117
HW Version: B_CHL_G

Also.. are you able to play Youtube Videos ?, I can log in to my Youtube Account, see all my videos but when I select Play it Loads but never plays, then returns back to the Youtube home page...

I have an Iphone 14 Pro Max with the latest updates..I wonder if this could be the issue as the MCU Version is 2021.

[fe7565]

Originally Posted by menem

Hello,
I have purchased Andream MMI, the NBT version, since I have a HU_ENTRYNAV (NBT system but without NAV). I connected everything as instructed on the forum, however when I switch to AA screen, nothing is shown (black screen). When I switch to BMW menu, it works fine, so I believe I have connected everything correctly. I'm doubting there might be an issue because I have upgraded the basic 6.6 screen to 8.8 one some time ago. However, I have put the dip switch position as for 8.8 screen - 123 to ON. Do you guys have any clue why it does not work?

Thanks

I would reach out to Andream support first.

Do you have anything showing when NOT in the OEM menu? Or just black screen? Is there "No signal" displayed? Can you hear audio when in MMI screen mode but black?

1. check that all connections and LVDS are firm and seated. Re-seat the quadlock connectors.

2. Make sure DIP switch settings is ON and not OFF (labeling is funky)

3. try different DIP switch settings (search this thread and read first page)

4. LVDS cable(s) maybe backwards (unlikely)

[fe7565]

Originally Posted by BMWChap

I have the German ModsUK version

I can confirm the audio sounds terrible via AUX so i'll be switching it back to Bluetooth, interestingly on my BMW E92 2010 CIC I have what appears to be a later CUST version ??

SDK Version: 25.0.0.7.0.0.2.0
CUST Version: EW_CHL_1.6.16R2_n
MCU Version: 21.7.21.117
HW Version: B_CHL_G

Also.. are you able to play Youtube Videos ?, I can log in to my Youtube Account, see all my videos but when I select Play it Loads but never plays, then returns back to the Youtube home page...

I have an Iphone 14 Pro Max with the latest updates..I wonder if this could be the issue as the MCU Version is 2021.

My guess is that it's an Andream type firmware based on the format, but do not know ModsUK...maybe someone else does. Some sellers add protection in their firmware (even if it looks like Andream or Road Top) that may brick the MMI if you do not install their files.

I did not get my YouTube on my Road Top NBT working, because after two tries it failed, and I did not have the patience to figure it out since I only use YouTube at home. Someone else may be able to help you there.

Not sure which iPhone had problems with the MMI....14 or 15? But it was not a YouTube issue, if I remember correctly.

[fe7565]

Some notes for anyone who may later run into the same issues:

I had an NBT emulator. Depending if you installed the emulator before the MMI, or between the MMI and the HU....it could block CAN messages. My MMI was not able to detect the reverse cam CAN message when installed it on the KCAN2 car bus between the MMI and NBT HU. MMI => Emulator => NBT HU. I had to use the manual sensing wire connected to the backup light. So should connect like this: Emulator => MMI => NBT HU (tap emulator into MMI harness) When I removed the NBT emulator (not needing it) after using full set of after-market FSC codes....the MMI was able to receive that CAN message.

Another issue. If your CID in MMI-mode goes intermittently black (not the "No Signal", just a blank CID) while driving, one of your LVDS cables may have a break in it. It connects and disconnects seemingly randomly, but mostly when the car is in motion as the wire inside is cracked.

[menem]

Originally Posted by fe7565

I would reach out to Andream support first.

Do you have anything showing when NOT in the OEM menu? Or just black screen? Is there "No signal" displayed? Can you hear audio when in MMI screen mode but black?

1. check that all connections and LVDS are firm and seated. Re-seat the quadlock connectors.

2. Make sure DIP switch settings is ON and not OFF (labeling is funky)

3. try different DIP switch settings (search this thread and read first page)

4. LVDS cable(s) maybe backwards (unlikely)

Thank you for your reply, I have contacted the Andream support and I am waiting for the response, here is some more information.

When I switch to MMI screen/mode, nothing is shown, just black screen.
I did not try to connect to AA yet, because I do not see even the basic MMI menu, so when I switch to MMI screen I can hear audio source that is currently selected in OEM headunit (BMW bluetooth, radio).

1. I re checked LVDS connection, that was my first guess, even tried switching LVDS cables in following way:

HU -> original LVDS -> MMI -> new LVDS cable -> screen
vs
HU -> new LVDS cable -> MMI -> original LVDS -> screen

this did not help

As for the quadlocks, I could try re-seating them, but if this was an issue wouldn't there also be problem with OEM menu and functionality?

2. I have double checked it, arrow is pointing down for ON, so I've put 123 down, could it be reverse ?

3. I've read first 10ish pages, seems that 123 should be the only correct combination? What else did you had in mind?

4. What do you mean by backwards (see my answer in 1.) I this even possible ?

[fe7565]

Originally Posted by menem

Thank you for your reply, I have contacted the Andream support and I am waiting for the response, here is some more information.

When I switch to MMI screen/mode, nothing is shown, just black screen.
I did not try to connect to AA yet, because I do not see even the basic MMI menu, so when I switch to MMI screen I can hear audio source that is currently selected in OEM headunit (BMW bluetooth, radio).

1. I re checked LVDS connection, that was my first guess, even tried switching LVDS cables in following way:

HU -> original LVDS -> MMI -> new LVDS cable -> screen
vs
HU -> new LVDS cable -> MMI -> original LVDS -> screen

this did not help

As for the quadlocks, I could try re-seating them, but if this was an issue wouldn't there also be problem with OEM menu and functionality?

2. I have double checked it, arrow is pointing down for ON, so I've put 123 down, could it be reverse ?

3. I've read first 10ish pages, seems that 123 should be the only correct combination? What else did you had in mind?

4. What do you mean by backwards (see my answer in 1.) I this even possible ?

You have done everything I would have done.

My guess is either DIP switch setting....

or.....LVDS cable pin orientation is off by 90 degrees or 180 degrees. First check if you have power going to your 4+2 (6 pin) connector's red wire and check the black/brown? if you have ground. Do for both LVDS cables. Possible that your positive and negative are switched. If you get power to your CID, you should get an orange "No Signal" displayed. So looks like your CID is not getting power. Either missing power from the HU to the MMI or missing from the MMI to the CID...or both.

If the 2 power wires were switched around, your 4 data pins maybe also switched.

If that's the case...you can ask the seller to send you the correct cable. Or carefully pull out the two pins (pos and neg) and swap them. Or cut the the pos/neg power cables and swap them. Do not cut any of the 4 data (video signal) cables as they are RF protected.

You have APIX1 CID?

[menem]

Originally Posted by fe7565

You have done everything I would have done.

My guess is either DIP switch setting....

or.....LVDS cable pin orientation is off by 90 degrees or 180 degrees. First check if you have power going to your 4+2 (6 pin) connector's red wire and check the black/brown? if you have ground. Do for both LVDS cables. Possible that your positive and negative are switched. If you get power to your CID, you should get an orange "No Signal" displayed. So looks like your CID is not getting power. Either missing power from the HU to the MMI or missing from the MMI to the CID...or both.

If the 2 power wires were switched around, your 4 data pins maybe also switched.

If that's the case...you can ask the seller to send you the correct cable. Or carefully pull out the two pins (pos and neg) and swap them. Or cut the the pos/neg power cables and swap them. Do not cut any of the 4 data (video signal) cables as they are RF protected.

You have APIX1 CID?

I would also assume the dip switch combination is the problem, because you can not connect LVDS either 90 or 180 degrees off, the connector itself is keyed, also the +2 pins can only go one way.

What is the other possible DIP combination I should try?

Also, as mentioned earlier, the OEM menu is shown correctly, wouldn't this also be affected if LVDS cables were wrongly connected?

What is APIX1 CID ? I have upgraded to Alpine AL3011 8.8 CID - 9387453024 OEM number

[fe7565]

Originally Posted by menem

I would also assume the dip switch combination is the problem, because you can not connect LVDS either 90 or 180 degrees off, the connector itself is keyed, also the +2 pins can only go one way.

What is the other possible DIP combination I should try?

Also, as mentioned earlier, the OEM menu is shown correctly, wouldn't this also be affected if LVDS cables were wrongly connected?

What is APIX1 CID ? I have upgraded to Alpine AL3011 8.8 CID - 9387453024 OEM number

Yes, you are correct, if the OEM menu shows then the LVDS cables are ok.

APIX1 is the older video signal and will not work with APIX2 and vice versa. I believe yours is APIX1 which should work ok with the NBT MMI.

I would search the thread for DIP switch settings that others posted and fixed theirs. There are only a couple more setting options on that, not like infinitive. 11100000 what it should be. Try 01100000 or 00110000

Wild guess: 11110000, or 11000000

Unless your MCU file is messed up, or your CUST Version firmware is corrupt. But I would wait on that for the seller as they should have a better idea.

Are you sure your MMI is for NBT? Any markings? I assume you cannot see the firmware either because of the blank screen

[menem]

Originally Posted by fe7565

Yes, you are correct, if the OEM menu shows then the LVDS cables are ok.

APIX1 is the older video signal and will not work with APIX2 and vice versa. I believe yours is APIX1 which should work ok with the NBT MMI.

I would search the thread for DIP switch settings that others posted and fixed theirs. There are only a couple more setting options on that, not like infinitive. 11100000 what it should be. Try 01100000 or 00110000

Wild guess: 11110000, or 11000000

Unless your MCU file is messed up, or your CUST Version firmware is corrupt. But I would wait on that for the seller as they should have a better idea.

Are you sure your MMI is for NBT? Any markings? I assume you cannot see the firmware either because of the blank screen

I just found my old screen, so I've removed all the trim again and tried many different configurations with the old screen.

It seems that MMI menu is always shown correctly on the old 6.5 screen, no matter the dip switch combination (re-connected MMI every time I changed switches) :

00000000
11000000
11100000
11110000

but of course, the OEM menu is then not shown since I have coded it for 8.8.

However, with the mentioned DIP switch positions I never managed to get it to work with bigger screen, as if the MMI is ignoring the dip switches (only change I saw was when switch 4 was ON, I couldn't exit MMI screen).

I can additionally try the 01100000, as suggested.

I took a picture of SW version with the old screen connected (see attachment), as for the device, the box it came in says EW-LBMCP-NBT02B

[menem]

fe7565 Thanks a lot for your help, I found the solution.

Apparently, I got a different HW version from the Andream seller - EW-LBMCP-NBT02B

This version is different, so the correct dip switch position is this:
00000010

Unfortunately, I did not found updates for this version and it does not have the same options like "Use car BT" which I would like to use.

I will talk to the seller because I don't like that this version does not have all the support and updates that are posted in this thread.

[fe7565]

Originally Posted by menem

I just found my old screen, so I've removed all the trim again and tried many different configurations with the old screen.

It seems that MMI menu is always shown correctly on the old 6.5 screen, no matter the dip switch combination (re-connected MMI every time I changed switches) :

00000000
11000000
11100000
11110000

but of course, the OEM menu is then not shown since I have coded it for 8.8.

However, with the mentioned DIP switch positions I never managed to get it to work with bigger screen, as if the MMI is ignoring the dip switches (only change I saw was when switch 4 was ON, I couldn't exit MMI screen).

I can additionally try the 01100000, as suggested.

I took a picture of SW version with the old screen connected (see attachment), as for the device, the box it came in says EW-LBMCP-NBT02B

This is a firmware format that is very different from the Andream and Road Top. Cannot be of help here.

[cjescudero]

Following my last post, which described the experience and process of updating my Andream (EW_NBT_04X) (https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=30493099 ), I decided to update it to enhance stability with my iPhone 14 Pro (which occasionally lost its settings) and to improve some features. Here’s what I did, with some additional details...

I extracted all the files from the reference in this post https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...ostcount=11935

My starting point was:

• SDK Version: 25.0.0.7.0.0.2.0
• CUST Version: EW_B2_1.6.13_n
• MCU Version: 21.9.13.122
• HW Version: B_N2_1_G

After updating (in the order specified) the MCU with N3MCU_G.bin (extracted from GD-ENB--MCU--20230112) and the ISPBOOOT.BIN (extracted from lcbmw2e_n_EW_B2_1.6.16_n), I ended up with:

• SDK Version: 25.0.0.7.0.0.2.0
• CUST Version: EW_B2_1.6.16_n
• MCU Version: 23.1.12.117
• HW Version: B_N2_1_G

Additionally, as an extra, I changed the BMW boot "Logo Image" and "Carplay icon" to my own version, which I'm sharing here if you’re interested:

• Logo image: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XiO...ew?usp=sharing
• Carplay icon: https://drive.google.com/file/d/19Gx...ew?usp=sharing

What I've noticed is:

• So far, more stability, without losing connection (at least from now).
• Although it might have been from my last update, I can now enjoy the two cameras I’ve installed connected to the module (since my car did not come with them and only has sensors at the back). This is because I can specify how long the front camera stays on after switching from reverse (with its camera) to driving forward ("From View Time Set". Without this, my car would remain a while in reverse (the time it’s programmed to show me the parking sensors) and never switched to the front.
• Since my last update, I use the car’s Bluetooth audio (highly recommended for the improved audio quality compared to the module’s AUX). Those of us who use it know that SIRI’s sound was very low. With this update, it seems everything remains the same.
• Regarding the sound of SIRI, nothing has change. Still too low the sound. I am afraid that is a problem with iOS.

[justenx]

Originally Posted by fe7565

Without posting details about your MMI, hard to answer anything.

Emm I asked about yours, but anyways mine is roadtop b2, running on B2R168_a, will update today to B2R176 as I saw it is the latest here but font think it addresses this issue specifically.

[justenx]

Originally Posted by alexusr

Faced the same, had to buy from Amazon to get an order number and then returned.
Here's the B2R176R2 version from a couple of days ago for NBT B2: https://we.tl/t-qs0FcxUAOM

Can you upload it to a different site that will keep it up?
Maybe mega or file.io?
Thanks

[cjescudero]

Originally Posted by cjescudero

Following my last post, which described the experience and process of updating my Andream (EW_NBT_04X) (https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=30493099 ), I decided to update it to enhance stability with my iPhone 14 Pro (which occasionally lost its settings) and to improve some features. Here’s what I did, with some additional details...

I extracted all the files from the reference in this post https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...ostcount=11935

My starting point was:

• SDK Version: 25.0.0.7.0.0.2.0
• CUST Version: EW_B2_1.6.13_n
• MCU Version: 21.9.13.122
• HW Version: B_N2_1_G

After updating (in the order specified) the MCU with N3MCU_G.bin (extracted from GD-ENB--MCU--20230112) and the ISPBOOOT.BIN (extracted from lcbmw2e_n_EW_B2_1.6.16_n), I ended up with:

• SDK Version: 25.0.0.7.0.0.2.0
• CUST Version: EW_B2_1.6.16_n
• MCU Version: 23.1.12.117
• HW Version: B_N2_1_G

Additionally, as an extra, I changed the BMW boot "Logo Image" and "Carplay icon" to my own version, which I'm sharing here if you’re interested:

• Logo image: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XiO...ew?usp=sharing
• Carplay icon: https://drive.google.com/file/d/19Gx...ew?usp=sharing

What I've noticed is:

• So far, more stability, without losing connection (at least from now).
• Although it might have been from my last update, I can now enjoy the two cameras I’ve installed connected to the module (since my car did not come with them and only has sensors at the back). This is because I can specify how long the front camera stays on after switching from reverse (with its camera) to driving forward ("From View Time Set". Without this, my car would remain a while in reverse (the time it’s programmed to show me the parking sensors) and never switched to the front.
• Since my last update, I use the car’s Bluetooth audio (highly recommended for the improved audio quality compared to the module’s AUX). Those of us who use it know that SIRI’s sound was very low. With this update, it seems everything remains the same.
• Regarding the sound of SIRI, nothing has change. Still too low the sound. I am afraid that is a problem with iOS.

I have updated the links to the logo images and the CarPlay icon, because the previous ones were not working. I hope there are no issues now.

[minulache]

Hi guys,
Having a problem with my Andream unit for CIC. I cannot get Airplay to work. I switch off the "use car's bt" as it says and I connect to the WIFI of the unit but whenenever I try to screen mirror it shows the airplay device, then it shows cannot connect. Any ideas?
Phone is iPhone 15 Pro Max
CUST Version: EW_CHL_1.6.14_n
MCU Version: 21.7.21.117
HW Version: B_CHL_G

[hagncola]

Originally Posted by minulache

Hi guys,
Having a problem with my Andream unit for CIC. I cannot get Airplay to work. I switch off the "use car's bt" as it says and I connect to the WIFI of the unit but whenenever I try to screen mirror it shows the airplay device, then it shows cannot connect. Any ideas?
Phone is iPhone 15 Pro Max
CUST Version: EW_CHL_1.6.14_n
MCU Version: 21.7.21.117
HW Version: B_CHL_G

Firmware issue, you need 1.6.16_R2 -- than should work.

[minulache]

Thanks very much! Any idea where I could find it? I don’t see it in the initial post here